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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

52% of all respondents support National Guard being used as police force

Absolutely cooked country

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Yeah, I support political violence, but only when it's being perpetrated by the US military against my neighbors"

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Burgerlanders can't reliably read above a 5th grade level, are encouraging openly regressive and wantonly stupid views on basic science concerning their own immediate self preservation to take center stage (the vaccine section in this article lmao), and you expect them to be able to draw abstract parallels between boot deployments and political violence?

This is THE country that, metaphorically, thinks the author only meant that the curtains were blue.

I recall reading some years ago that on some international standardized test, Americans performed by far the worst on average yet were also by far the most certain of their success.

[–] hedd616@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

well... Its not that far from what the US always believed. But applied to it's own citizens.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

Imperial boomerang goes baaaaack

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Hi, I'm Brendan Jam- and I'm Noah Kulwin

[–] hedd616@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

It's the "banana-republiczation" of the USA.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean you could also say the national guard may be slightly less psychotic than the police and may actually de-escalate situations rather than just shooting anything that moves.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Not trying to be hostile, but even given that generous assumption, do we really think that is why people support Guard deployments?

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

People actually believe the national guard uphold "good American values", like enforcing desegregation and the civil rights act when racist police didn't want to. We have a dim view of Burgerlanders here, rightfully so, but I do see many of them view the National Guard as just average people helping in times of disasters like tornadoes.

[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wasn't it the Ohio National Guard that perpetrated the Kent State massacre? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings (sorry for the NATOpedia link)

I think that view of the national guard upholding "good American values" has been long dead since then.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

No, I imagine it’s because “our cities are a war zone that’s being taken over by homeless woke antifa homosexual immigrants” and we need to “take control and restore order”.

I think America is really in a dark place. As the contradictions of capitalism keep coming home to roost ever increasing facism is the only thing that can keep the facade up, and facism is a death cult - it’s not going to be pretty.

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

I saw a little "ACAB doesn't include National Guard" when they were sent to DC so for at least a handful of people, yeah.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would it actually be true if you said it? Genuine question, not a burgerlander

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

soldiers have stricter ROE and discipline for infractions, but imo all it'd take is a period of normalization & consequence-free killings by soldiers for these attitudes to relax. and/or people shooting at them