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At least one journalist was hospitalized after Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were seen cursing out, grabbing and shoving reporters on a public elevator.According to amNewYork, ICE agents were apprehending a suspected immigrant inside the elevator at 26 Federal Plaza in Lower Manhattan o...

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Looking for self-defense classes for my SO. Sure, it’s illegal to fight back, but I mean it mostly to minimize their attack. Also, encouraging them to do daily calisthenics. Fortunately they’ve always been athletic so it’s not a huge encouragement.

We’re not their target yet, but I’ve no doubt that soon everyone will be.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

It's going to be illegal for a lot of us to even exist soon. Might as well fight back.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Break the law if it means saving your life

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not illegal to fight back, this is literally what the second amendment is for.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, if you have enough money for the court battles.. for the next decade.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're EXTREMELY lucky, I would say. In this climate, other ice or law enforcement are just going to kill you. Or at the very least throw you in prison, into a system where you also might just disappear. Without seeing a lawyer or your family, to another country, where you may not be a citizen or have ever lived. And possibly into their foreign prison system directly, into an evil vilainesque torture prison designed for nobody to ever leave

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, here we are right back to fighting back. Your dead or in a cage to be sent to your death anyways.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. Probably best to go out standing

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Be awfully cool of americans to remember this.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that is how I live day to day regardless, I'll be on the news if they come after me, I'm completely okay dying.

Seriously. Going down in a hail of gun fire>>>tortured to death in a foreign prison.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Assuming you survive the hellfire of bullets that will rain down on you if you try, that is.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 1 day ago

Going for the balls and throat is always a good self defense option.

But honestly, unless you're training very regularly, the training in those classes will be forgotten once the adrenaline kicks in. For most people it needs to be committed to muscle memory to use in a panic situation.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Sure, it’s illegal to fight back,

Oh, so they've dialed another notch into fascism, i see...