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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not the person you're replying to, but you could try DuckDuckGo

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Ddg is crap. I pretty much immediately went back to google.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Duck is powered by bing and does not block all microsoft trackers with whom they have a partnership.

Bookmark trusted websites and sources and accept that almost all alternative search engines use google/bing, are compromised.

If you are particularly paranoid run your own searxng instance on a anonymously owned server.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That's just Bing with extra slop

Edit: downvotes from people I can only assume are mad that they've been tracked by Microsoft this whole time and can't figure out how to properly channel their anger

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a sad day when Bing is better than Google, but we've been there for a while. Not to say either is good, I switched to a self hosted SearXNG a while ago and it's so much better.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I consistently get much worse results with DDG/Bing than Google.

Edit: downvotes? My personal experience is wrong?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Edit: downvotes? My personal experience is wrong?

From the guy going into the profiles of people they disagree with in order to downvote unrelated posts...

(Your votes on Lemmy are public information)

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're still using Google I don't think you should be complaining about the AI slop elsewhere.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You might note that I'm not suggesting alternatives that are just as sloppy and worse overall.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did note that you are not suggesting alternatives, yes.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would if I had found anything better.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Poorer results while not bending the knee to facists sounds better to me, but you do you.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

So what search engine are you using?

[–] logi@piefed.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Also not the person you are replying to, but I pay to use Kagi so that I am the customer and not the product.

[–] popcornpizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wanted to try Kagi because it sounds like they'd be better at curating their database and I wouldn't get SEO results? but they don't have regional or coherent pricing. 5 USD for 300 searches? 10 USD for unlimited searches? It's absurd. I get a whole suite of services for the same price as the "Professional" tier. Kagi's infrastructure can't be costlier than Proton's, or Mullvad's, or addy's, Bitwarden's, or Filen's, etc.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

And they're still propped up with mostly scraped data from other engines.

SearxNG until it doesn't work anymore, then maybe.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

I used Kagi for a year. It's fine.

I like the idea of paying for this type of service.

I stopped because... IDK something about the CEO I think.

I've been using searxng for the last year or so, I quite like it.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is there a tier without AI? Seem the pricing is used to pay AI model instead of search

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The pricing was the same before they introduced the Ai.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They should charge less for the slop.

I really like their implementation. If you use a question mark in your query it triggers a brief Ai answer so you can avoid clicking links but if your goal is a proper web search, leaving it out provides links without any AI contamination.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Duck is powered by bing and does not block all microsoft trackers with whom they have a partnership.

Bookmark trusted websites and sources and accept that almost all alternative search engines use google/bing, are compromised.

If you are particularly paranoid run your own searxng instance on a anonymously owned server.

[–] quackerjo@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Searxng still has to send out queries and receive results, but yes, it's one of the better options, and I mentioned it in another comment.

Regardless, my beef with Google search isn't specifically privacy related, it's that in exchange for giving up some privacy, I get no useful results in return, just slop.

DDG isn't perfect, but it substantially better than most of the available alternatives.

Externally hosted search engines have to make money, you'll either exchange some privacy, or some cash, in exchange for results.

[–] quackerjo@lemmy.wtf 16 points 2 days ago

I mostly use DDG, but sometimes searx.

Startpage returns similarly dubious results as Google, but with the built-in proxy functionality and no clutter, so it's also in the rotation.