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Wait, when did they start saying they were gonna EOL Nest thermostats?
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/16233096 1st and 2nd gen learning thermostats are going EOL by October 25th without any option to control locally (other than, yknow, the thermostat itself)
But don't worry! They'll let you purchase the 4th gen for only $149.99 if you're one of these owners!! Yippee!!!
You're given the opportunity to pay us money to get the same functionality you currently enjoy!
You should be thankful for the privilege
On totally unrelated news, I'm finding the my new ecobee to be pretty sweet. Supposedly it can be two stepped into homeassistant via Apple's webkit?
I had heard good things for Ecobee, but at some point last year they shut down their developer registrations. Still 100% accessible through the HomeKit integration, but it didn't feel like a good move for them.
I ended up going with a Meross MTS300 to replace my Nest. It feels like the local-only smart thermostat market is pretty dry, so I gave them a shot. There's some 3rd party Home Assistant integration for it, which I actually saw a Meross dev offering up some internal docs in an issue so they could build better support. I thought was pretty chill of them. A much better attitude than "oh we don't support this platform officially, cease building for it". Supposedly it can operate entirely separately from their infra with some tweaks, but I've unfortunately ran out of weekend. Even without those tweaks it can operate without internet over Matter
Wouldn't recommend it personally yet until I have more time to find the quirks about it. In any case it's been significantly more reliable than my Nest ever was
That's mostly the reason I went for them, trying as some back burner thing to get whatever appliances, lights cameras, etc all figured how I could do them fully in house. Not a huge priority, switches work just fine, but if I do set such things up the idea of it failing because of an Internet outage is a no-go
I'm going to go give my dumb thermostat a li'l pat on the head. It does everything I need all by itself.
Also super cool of them to disable the thermostat just when heating starts to become safety critical.
It still functions as a thermostat. You simply can’t access the smart features like presence sensing (to automatically turn your system off when you’re not home) or cloud control, (so you can’t adjust the temperature from your phone anymore). But it’ll still continue to function as a dumb thermostat. You set the temperature at the unit, and it holds said temperature until you change it.
Even the dumbest thermostats have a schedule feature. This one won’t.
Shite. At least my Nest 3rd is safe...for now