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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nah, vibe coders are definitionally reliant on highy disruptive, literally economy destabilizing 'AIs', that are made by the most gigantic of megacorps and foundations.

That would make them so far into soydev they are off the chart to the bottom right, and it would also mean you'd be grilling Impossible Burgers.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

But also super far into cogdev because the largest investors in those efforts by far are the established tech giants that have been around for years, so they are directly supporting the biggest players getting bigger

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I hear what you are saying, but you can't ignore the disruption vs traditional axis of 'brand new shit' vs 'archaic shit that is still the basis of everything for probably a lot of good reasons.'

Thats the y axis.

The x axis is basically full corpo on the right, full foss/anarchist on the left.

So, the vibe coder is a soydev who works for cogdevs, or people somewhere between cogdev and soydev.

Here's how I look at this.

Maybe if you went with... not the corners of the quadrants, but the tips of the axes, you'd get:

top:

ancient wizard of languages that aren't even really taught anymore (COBOL, for example), but which everything actually runs on if you dig deep enough.

bottom:

hyper early adopter / innovator / formal researcher who does things because they can, asking about "should we do this?" is for cowards, yolo, etc

left:

open source radical anarchist, money is a disgusting thing that is unfortunately somewhat necessary to fund development

right:

full corpo bastard, code doesn't actually matter, making money from code matters.

Further down in this thread, under another comment, I basically tried to do a 'personality test' or maybe 'ttrpg archetype description' style write up of the corners of the quadrants... at least my way of trying to make sense out of what I think whoever made this image is going for.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah idk it was more of a from the hip impulsive thing. I'm a simple shitposter. I see poltiical compass and I just want to grill.

Also:

so far into soydev they are off the chart to the bottom right, and it would also mean you’d be grilling Impossible Burgers.

I didn't realize there were going to be personal attacks.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, all my responses in this thread have been hip shooting as well lol.

And its not a personal attack to say if you're a soydev, you're grillin' soy burgers.

I mean sure, maybe they're not quite the same taste as beef, but uh, nothin' really wrong with a less than totally conventional burger, imo.

Its just a joke lol, didn't mean to offend, just word/concept association = joke/pun, thats roughly how my autistic ass formulates 'zingers' lol.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I meant it as a joke. I eat impossible burgers erry day.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Orly?

I've only had one once, and I'd like to try them again.

... please invite me to your soy grill please ...