this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2023
54 points (89.7% liked)
Canada
7215 readers
416 users here now
What's going on Canada?
Communities
π Meta
πΊοΈ Provinces / Territories
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Manitoba
- New Brunswick
- Newfoundland and Labrador
- Northwest Territories
- Nova Scotia
- Nunavut
- Ontario
- Prince Edward Island
- Quebec
- Saskatchewan
- Yukon
ποΈ Cities / Local Communities
- Calgary (AB)
- Edmonton (AB)
- Greater Sudbury (ON)
- Halifax (NS)
- Hamilton (ON)
- Kootenays (BC)
- London (ON)
- Mississauga (ON)
- Montreal (QC)
- Nanaimo (BC)
- Oceanside (BC)
- Ottawa (ON)
- Port Alberni (BC)
- Regina (SK)
- Saskatoon (SK)
- Thunder Bay (ON)
- Toronto (ON)
- Vancouver (BC)
- Vancouver Island (BC)
- Victoria (BC)
- Waterloo (ON)
- Winnipeg (MB)
π Sports
Hockey
- List of All Teams: Post on /c/hockey
- General Community: /c/Hockey
- Calgary Flames
- Edmonton Oilers
- MontrΓ©al Canadiens
- Ottawa Senators
- Toronto Maple Leafs
- Vancouver Canucks
- Winnipeg Jets
Football (NFL)
- List of All Teams:
unknown
Football (CFL)
- List of All Teams:
unknown
Baseball
- List of All Teams:
unknown - Toronto Blue Jays
Basketball
- List of All Teams:
unknown - Toronto Raptors
Soccer
- List of All Teams:
unknown - General Community: /c/CanadaSoccer
- Toronto FC
π» Universities
π΅ Finance / Shopping
- Personal Finance Canada
- BAPCSalesCanada
- Canadian Investor
- Buy Canadian
- Quebec Finance
- Churning Canada
π£οΈ Politics
- Canada Politics
- General:
- By Province:
π Social and Culture
Rules
Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
three bedrooms exist but are way costly compared to one or two bedrooms such that people might as well buy a detached house. Then also a condo will have much less general space. basements, attics, yards, and garages mean that even a rinky little two bedroom house will have much more space than a four bedroom condo.
You are correct they do exist in small quantities, and they do cost more then a single family home.
The reason the cost is higher is because apartment designs with a single long corridor down the middle cause a 3 or 4 bedroom coming off that corridor to usually have 200~300 sq foot more then needed in the layout/design.
Compared to a point access layout for example where layouts can be arranged in a multitude of ways and layouts can become more efficient in use of space.
This article here demonstrates these layouts a little better then I can, it also shows how the sq footages increases as more bedrooma are added along the single corridor layout.
https://www.centerforbuilding.org/blog/we-we-cant-build-family-sized-apartments-in-north-america
So all these factors essential drive a choice of either living in the suburbs in a single family home, or a 1 or 2 bedroom large condo towers in a city center.
The trouble with this is we are "missing the middle" housing as shown in these videos. Homes for growing families that don't want to live in the suburbs and don't or can't fit into a two bedroom apartment tower, or can't afford the 4 bedroom condo layout. Or families that don't want to stick their kid into a den without a window.
We need homes such a 4 plexes, 3-4 level condos, laneway homes, all the layouts that are essentially illegal in north america to build.
That increase is square footage with additions bedrooms is strange and seems a bit limited. I feel they are working under the theory all bedrooms have to have windows. We have one bedroom cooridoor condos that only have windows in the living space and the bedroom is windowless. The tree bedroom could easily have two on the left with a bathroom between them but one would be windowless and then the square footage would not need to be blown up.
Bedrooms do have to have windows or a door to the outside to be legally a bedroom.
Not in chicago. Very common to have a bedroom that is almost right in the middle of the condo. door to the rest of the condo but not outside. Maybe they get away on some technicality bit its a common thing I have seen. It allows them to do these thin long condos in the high rises
That may be classified as a bachelor's unit with a "den", at least that's how it would be in Canada. A bedroom is only legally a bedroom once it has a window per the Ontario build code at least.
Though this is the issue, raising a family with two or more kids in a condo may not be something everyone would like to do. It's all personal preference in the end.
The trouble is the choice in the market is limited in types of homes, the desire may be there to find something other then a large condo tower, or a single family home, but developers cant build them because of the code.
So people can only choose to find a larger more expensive condo tower with a 3~4 full debrooms layout (which is hard), or move into a single family home in the suburbs a few hours out of the city center (which increases the commute).
yeah. they advertise it as a bedroom but I would not be surprised if the paperwork did something like you say. Many of the traditional things have been being slanted for decades. what is called a studio nowadays would be called an efficiency when I was young.
Wow, do slimeball realtors play fast and loose with those regulations. I've seen "window to the living room" as the safety feature in a bedroom. Many of them here, too, brazenly show an 8x8 windowless space as a 'bedroom'; and with the demand, they can afford a few people questioning that.
8 billion snowflakes on the planet; it's either the purge or adaptation to consolidation.