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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I get it but I still think it's more about just being against the government than any realistic risk. You already have to show your ID to buy alcohol or enter some places. The government could simply require shop owners to scan the ID with government app. Digital ID is not needed to monitor where each ID is used. And you don't have to show your ID to use public transport. Just having digital ID doesn't mean it will be mandatory to use it everywhere. They can just as easily require normal ID everywhere. The risks you're describing are basically a big stretch. But I get it, you don't trust this government to do anything so this includes digital ID.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You already have to show your ID to buy alcohol or enter some places.

and who cares about that? It's an entirely different situation. the card is not scanned, it is not recorded in a database that you were there. a person just checks it with their eyes.

The government could simply require shop owners to scan the ID with government app.

the point is that it would be a noticeable, suspicious change for more people. but when its dressed as convenience first and then deprecation of "obsolete" "insecure" practices, it is not. then concerns like this can just be handwaved away, that "oh it surely won't happen"

And you don't have to show your ID to use public transport.

in my country you already have to scan your monthly pass, tied to your id. travel information is also persisted for years. they banned paper passes in law.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 3 hours ago

in my country you already have to scan your monthly pass, tied to your id. travel information is also persisted for years. they banned paper passes in law.

This just confirms my point. Those practices are not tied to digital ID. You can gather the same data without digital ID and having digital ID does not automatically mean data will be gathered. People simply don't want government to do anything because they don't trust it. And this is fine. I was just wandering if digital ID in itself is a bad idea for some reason but I see it's not.