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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I suspect a part of the death drive towards fascism comes from people who have done such wrongs that they believe they absolutely must take power or else they're going to end up locked up.

Many things that are pushed for make no sense except against the backdrop of self preservation.

A lot of these people would be much better off melting into the background and being invisible, like some of their counterparts. They don't do that because they know they can not, they are in too deep, they have done too many heinous wrongs. Like a mafia familia who wants to get out of the game, they can not.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, Caesar marched on Rome because he was ordered to leave his legion behind and enter the city where his political enemies would have punished him.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah but in that case the system actually genuinely threatened him, liberalism isn't even genuinely threatening to go after these people.

Liberalism has allowed enough of these people to accumulate that they've crossed a critical threshold where they actually hold enough power between them to work to overthrow the system. And even though liberalism is explicitly being hands-off with them (as visible in the fact that so many of them have been allowed to accumulate), they still feel threatened enough by the heinous shit they will overthrow the whole system to protect themselves.

Not all of them are like this obviously. Some are true believers in fascism. But some of these figures aren't committed fascists, they're just nonces throwing their lot in with fascists because regular people will crucify them if they do not.