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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't act like Israel was just peacefully minding its own business when Hamas attacked. Israel was founded by ethnic cleansing and had been slowly trying to finish the job for decades by forcing Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas, taking control of their utilities and resources, and depriving them of their rights. Oct. 7th gave Israel an excuse to escalate what they had already been doing.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I love how you guys try to push this dishonest argument that everything started in 1948. It did not. Things happened before that. There was violence on both sides, with full blown pogroms breaking out in 1920, 1921, and 1929. Arabs were offered a much bigger chunk of the region, they refused it because they wanted all of the land which would have meant the eradication of the jews in the region, much as has occurred elsewhere throughout the middle east. The Jews fought back with Israel and people like you just don't seem to like it.

I'm so tired of getting in this repeated argument about this very same thing with people like you who just refuse to acknowledge history before 1948. The history matters, no matter how much you want to try to ignore it.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Jews and arabs have always lived in the region. The notion that an ethnostate is necessary because it's the only way for them to be safe is a propaganda myth and also inherently illogical.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

what the hell are you talking about? look at the jewish populations in nearly every single country in the middle east compared to what they were at the beginning of the 20th century.

I will block anyone who tries to be this disingenuous with their statements. You aren't worth my time.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

"Jews and Muslims can't coexist and it's all the Muslims' fault, that's why we have to force Muslims off their land and establish a Jewish ethnostate. We have a right to it anyway because god gave it to us or whatever. How dare they fight back!"

This is your argument, and we are the ones being disingenuous?