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[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The gas is almost the cheapest thing. Insurance, maintenance, tires, etc

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yes, but an EV also needs insurance, maintenance, and tires. OP’s post is pointing out a distinction between EVs and ICE vehicles.

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, was thinking more the “2 cars” vs 1. And $70/month to have backup transport may be worth it if it’s paid off. But yes, the EV would be cheaper to run.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Not just a backup transport, but something with a manual transmission. I'll ultimately end up getting an EV, but I don't think I ever want to ditch the MT, it's just a different, and IMO more enjoyable, driving experience.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

EV's need even less maintenance since they don't need oil changes. They also rarely need brakes replaced due to regenerative breaking

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

EVs need to their their battery replaced every 5 years or so, and from what I understand, the batteries cost as much as the whole car, so it's a disposable car that you need to repurchase every 5 years.

Meanwhile ICE cars can last for 30 years, and so even if they don't produce tailpipe pollution, and constant manufacturing and destruction of new cars probably of sets the benefits, specially in countries where electricity is generated from fossil sources (most countries).

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EV batteries generally have warranties for less than 30% total battery degradation over a life of 8 years and 100,000 miles. Most people drive less than 50 miles on a normal day, so if they get a vehicle that initially has 250 miles of range, after 8 years they will still have 175 miles of range. Thats still over 3x their daily driving needs. That doesn't necessitate a replacement. Few cars get driven past 300,000 miles before scrapping, so you most likely only need to replace the battery once. And don't forget that battery costs are constantly going down. Source: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a31875141/electric-car-battery-life/

The amount of driving needed to offset EV manufacturing is low. A new Tesla Model 3 does less total damage to the environment than a new Toyota Corolla after 13,500 miles. Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/lifetime-carbon-emissions-electric-vehicles-vs-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/

Quit spreading misinformation

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 days ago

Wow, such an appropriate response to my comment

/s if it wasn't obvious enough

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know what "EV" doesn't need insurance, and has vastly cheaper maintenance and tires? An E-bike!

E-bikes are the real "EVs," outselling electric cars by a wide margin for several years now.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I mean folks buy more bicycles than e-bikes a year, and they are even cheaper to maintain. I don’t see your point when a majority of people’s needs would not be served in the US with e-bikes. Perhaps in other communities that don’t require as much car dependence, sure.