Lemmy Be Wholesome
PLEASE NOTE !wholesome@reddthat.com IS MORE ACTIVE
Welcome to Lemmy Be Wholesome. This is the polar opposite of LemmeShitpost. Here you can post wholesome memes, palate cleanser and good vibes.
The home to heal your soul. No bleak-posting!
Rules:
1. Be Respectful
Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.
Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.
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2. No Illegal Content
Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.
That means: -No promoting violence/threats against any individuals
-No CSA content or Revenge Porn
-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)
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3. No Spam
Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.
-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.
-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.
-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers
-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.
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4. No Porn/Explicit
Content
-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.
-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.
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5. No Enciting Harassment,
Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts
-Do not Brigade other Communities
-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.
-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.
-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.
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6. No NSFW Content
-Content shouldn't be NSFW
-Refrain from posting triggering content, if the content might be triggering try putting it behind NSFW tags.
7. Content should be Wholesome, we accept cute cats, kittens, puppies, dogs and anything, everything that restores your faith in humanity!
Content that isn't wholesome will be removed.
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8. Reposting of Reddit content is permitted, try to credit the OC.
-Please consider crediting the OC when reposting content. A name of the user or a link to the original post is sufficient.
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- No politics. So no mentioning government officials etc
Also check out:
Partnered Communities:
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Reach out to @LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone for inclusion on the sidebar.
All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules.~~___~~___
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I prefer multiple redundant communities for a few reasons.
If one is on an instance I've blocked (not in this case) it cuts off the discussion entirely. Like if the municipality and other communities on .ml never had redundant communities elsewhere I wouldn't see any of it.
Moderation can make engagement unfun on some instances.
It does increase crossposting and redundancy. Piefed currently merges comments of crosspoats which is awesome and lemmy could in the future.
So while I don't oppose it in this case, the consolidation trend seems to be swinging to the opposite extreme from intentional fragmentation instead of just letting each community grow and fade out on their own.
God I need thunder to have good piefed support. Every piefed app I've tried so far has given me trouble, but every passing day it becomes more clear my next instance should be piefed lol
Hello,
The issue is that at the moment, Lemmy still does not support this, and there's no clear timeline on when Lemmy 1.0 will release ( https://voyager.lemmy.ml/ shows it running, but it still seems like it's being tested)
The other issue is that communities tend to not fade out on their own if they have a high enough amount of subscribers, even if those are not active users. The two !wholesome communities here are a bit of an example
There are communities where the instances have been shut down for years, but people still post there because they show a high number of subscribers: https://lemmy.world/c/moviesandtv@lemmy.film
Lemmy.film shut down 2 years ago, posts made there never federate anywhere.
Finally, everyone is still able to create their own community on a topic if they wish to. Past experiences just show that usually there's poster burnout happening after a few weeks being the only poster on a community, and that it's usually easier to join an existing community.
Poster burnout is regularly discussed on !fedigrow@lemmy.zip for people interested.
Or like me they subbed to more than one of the same community across instances. It shouldn't be a competition.
Then the community fades away and that is what I would prefer to happen instead of formally closing and moving. A post about the prolific posters switching over worked well for the migration to piefed as far as I can tell.
It's not a competition, it's about keeping an activity level in one place. It's indeed easier to stay subscribed to several communities, but once you start posting you always double guess which one you should post to ( https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload/ ).
As I said, it never really fades away. There was a post on https://lemmy.world/c/moviesandtv@lemmy.film this week (https://lemmy.world/post/36120606?scrollToComments=true ) , that person will probably never get any comment there because it's not federated, but they have no way to know about that.
Then if someone shows up to give the platform a try, they have a look at a community like !lego@piefed.social that barely has any posts, when !lego@piefed.social has activity daily. They think the platform is dead, and leave.
Depends on the community. !movies@piefed.social is indeed more active, but you still have people posting to !movies@lemmy.world because they think it has a bigger audience. Same for !lego@piefed.social and !lego@lemmy.world. The only ones where there really a move were the communities on lemm.ee, as the instance shut down.
I know you've probably gotten this feedback a lot, but this whole crusade of yours of trying to reduce decentralization on Lemmy is really counterproductive. If Lemmy users wanted centralization they wouldn't be on a decentralized protocol.
How is Lemmy decentralized when more than 90% of the active communities are on one instance? https://piefed.zip/communities?search=&home_select=any&subscribe_select=any&topic_id=0&feed_id=0&language_id=0&instance=&sort_by=active_weekly+desc
Absolutely 💯
This sounds like you're in favor of keeping everything in a single community i.e. consolidation despite claiming to be against it.
I agree
Allowing posts to be created for communities on shut down instances is something that should be solved with a technical solution.
Discovery of communities is a much bigger issue than which community someone happens to land on to look for activity. Once people get a sub list going they don't have easy ways to know new communities are being created. Even if they browse All they might be sorting for popularity. If they use Local they never see stuff from other instances. If they look at an instance they won't see content from defederated instances. They also won't see the external content that nobody from that instance has subbed to.
Having more than one community with the same name and topic is something that could be addressed by encouraging people to find similar communities. The easiest would be an indicator that other federated communities with the same name exist that they could review and maybe click the join button. The end result would be more people finding out about similar communities across instances and far less need for crossposting to get more eyeballs.
As a side note, large instances are preferred by users who mostly view because the more people means more federation since communities on other instances only show if someone subs. That means the big instances are the ones that will grow because they already show most of the content by default.
Indeed. Piefed now pulls data from !newcommunities@lemmy.world to monitor new communities, and there are discussions to implement a way to ingest information from lemmyverse as well ( https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/4-developers/topic/Lemmyverse.20Community.20Discovery/near/4966 )
I've been posting a few communities to !newcommunities@lemmy.world in the last few days to make use of that feature.
This is already here in Piefed (right side of the screen, "Related Communities"):
I am aware, but that should only be a concern for user concentration, not community concentration.
Isn't the related Communities something that is manually added to the right hand menu?
I was thinking of something that would be next to the link name above the post, where it would be a heads up that a community exists on another instance with the exact same name. Automated and noticeable even if the sidebar isn't showing due to being on mobile or not having the web browser wide enough.
Either piefed.world doesn't support images or I need to turn something on or I would post an image to show what I mean. It would be something in addition to related communities, which is neat, but not based on exact matches.
A note to think about for the future: at what point do we start treating Lemmy as the disabled cousin that needs extra assistance to do even the most basic tasks? I cannot think of a single concession that has ever once been offered to PieFed to "compete" with Lemmy - every single step that it has ever taken it has EARNED its reputation, both good and bad, for being new but (relatively speaking) feature-complete, and for adding new features at what seems like a break-neck pace, which I can only hope does not entirely exhaust its main developers, especially when the project still has so very little funding support.
If you are worried that Lemmy is too centralized, then perhaps move this community to a PieFed instance? PieFed helps to support decentralization, whereas migrating to any Lemmy instance merely postpones the issue to have to once again be revisited later on, when Lemmy is even further behind and PieFed even more further ahead than it is now.
I am glad that Lemmy exists. I am even more glad that PieFed does. I use both on a weekly basis. I hope both will continue to exist. But regarding the issue of "centralization", as with nearly all other issues, one of them has a clear and definite edge over the other...
I too came here to say ~this! Having only one community takes away some of the benefits that decentralization provides; meanwhile, similar communities can just link to each other in their sidebar
Linking to each other in the sidebar doesn't really solve the issue
Having to look at a sidebar, a pinned comment, or an automated DM, is way better that having a single point of failure for our discussions which can be taken down by defederation, censorship, server data loss, etc; people who don't care (or don't know) about those, can just subscribe to only one of the communities and... just see fewer posts 🤔
If we just host all the communities on one instance, we'll just be making a new Reddit
This is kind of what is happening with Lemmy.world: https://piefed.zip/communities?search=&home_select=any&subscribe_select=any&topic_id=0&feed_id=0&language_id=0&instance=&sort_by=active_weekly+desc
You can see that the vast majority of the communities are hosted on LW.
Moving the active community to another instance (Reddthat) is a way to ensure the platform is more reliant. And should Reddthat go down, we could just reopen this one and discuss here where to go next.
Excellent point Blaze
Thanks for your perspective! I agree we don't want to be reddit. I moderate a few comms and IME pinned comments get totally missed. I've had issues receiving DMs a few times so I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it by DM. The idea of decentralisation is spreading it over the fediverse, not just on one instance. Reddthat isn't the primary instance so I think we'd be ok. I do totally see your concerns about censorship etc.
PieFed has a number of options that support this, including:
The only down-side is that I think atm none of these are supported by its brand-new API, so apps like Voyager cannot take advantage of them yet, and are limited to the same experience that you have with just basic Lemmy, but even that is only a temporary issue as PieFed zooms ahead with adding new features practically weekly.