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[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i’ll be honest the amount of energy it took to produce, ship, and then sell that shaving cream to you dwarfs the cost of the power for a hairdryer that’s only on a few seconds. if you’re wanting to be pendantic about it that is overall more harmful to the climate.

not in a rude way i’m just sick of these BP-personal-climate-calculator-core takes about environmentalism. just because you prostrate yourself doesn’t mean it’s actually doing anything to help. live your life. we’re all gonna die within a couple centuries if we don’t overthrow oligarchy, tho.

[–] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interesting experience to be shamed as an environmental extremist for this take.

The idea is to shave whatever and then use a tiny bit of that shaving cream on your mirror, since you will not be able to fully use 100% of the batch and just wash it down the drain anyway.

That makes the additional cost = 0.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

that’s fair, and in that context it is closer to a net cost of zero.

i don’t mean to be a dick. i’m honestly just sick of the narrative that stemming climate change is at all the responsibility of individuals. it’s oil company propaganda that entirely misrepresents the actual statistics we have regarding climate.

if it makes you feel better to do these things, i don’t want to make you feel shame about them. they’re morally aligned actions regardless and are good things to do. it doesn’t help the climate to do it, though, and that’s a lie that these people have sold you.

that’s just the problem with all these individual decisions we could take to supposedly help the climate… even if every consumer in every problematic market adjusted their behaviors (which is already fantastical fantasy)… exxon, bp, aramco, etc. will all just continue spewing inordinate amount of toxic fumes and sludge into the biosphere. the vast majority of climate change effects are driven almost entirely by industrial factors. that’s why they spread this weird propoganda about showering for less time or recycling… because they’re objectively moral things to do and they can make you, the consumer, feel more in control of the environment than you actually are, all without sacrificing their precious right to dump jamba juice into the ocean whenever they please.

so ig, like, continue keeping on keeping on. i like that you care about the environment. the deed itself doesn’t help it, though. spreading anti-industry messages is likely a better use of time and the public’s focus. that’s never going to happen though because then something might actually change or get done lol.

either way, i’m willing to admit the average westerner has far less control over their life than they’d like to admit. i can’t really blame people for buying and using the products sold to them. i can’t definitely blame these companies for producing such things tho.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

That fills the second 'R' out of the 3.