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I was not prepared to learn these things today.
most people outside the us have never heard any of kirk's talking points. if you only know that he is a conservative debater and use your normal (non-us) definition of "conservative", then "people should not die for their opinions" is not a controversial take. i'm not saying that's what's happened here but it's the most likely situation considering klings history.
I definitely wouldn't expect people to have heard of Kirk at all. Even within the US he was a bit of a niche asshole. But I would expect that before posting "RIP he was a good guy" they would do some quick web searches and get an idea of what somedude was about and then only post if they agreed that that's their notion of a good guy.
i agree, but my assessment of most people is that they just say shit
shit
yeah
Grrrreat. So one can already tick off that browser before it is even ready to test.
Honestly, Firefox has been stable AF and forks are doing awesome work. Maybe those forks might even continue doing their own thing by the time this project will be ready for beta testing.
Competition is great but this one's on already on shaky ground.
I'm rooting for Servo more than these fascist wannabes.
The argument on Kling seems pretty weak to me… is he Fascist because… he doesn’t support violence and an assassination? 🙄
By this logic for being not fascist one must support the death penalty?
I am pretty sure fascists are in favour of violence and murder (in fact the person cited was killed by a fascist)
"carry on his quest". What was Charlie Kirks quest again? Where does he say he doesn't support violence and assassination? Are you Klings PR?
Just because fascists kill fascists doesn't make spreding hate less fascist. Does your definition of fascists only start when they start shooting people on sight?
People like kirk were revelling in current administration. But since they didn't "use violence", they must've been innocent in all this trend, huh?
Honestly there's a reason fascists are on the rise. People like you seem too oblivious to see the subtle narrative of spreading hate by casual undertones.
But hey, you do you. I hope you take up his quest as well.
No, Kling is not at his first "offence" - he doesn't support LGBT, so that surely makes him a fucking fascist.
Can you cite something for that? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just disappointed by the revelation and would like to get my facts straight.
Jesus, what a reach for two projects run by normal dudes.
The open source community is filled with people on the left side trying to bring down people they disagree with. You can tolerate them, or fork away and leave their "shitty project run by fascists" instead of witch hunting and name calling anyone you dissagree with
fascists guy: has an opinion
leftist guy: wants to witch hunt a guy for his opinion amd get him kicked out of his own project
like it or not, who's being fascist? you know it well.
Hey, hi, trans person here. Calling my mere existence "political" is not "just an opinion". Rejecting a PR to change "he" to "they" in some code comments is also just a stupid hill to die on. No singular they is basically baby's first edgy opinion.
Sorry which are we talking about the rejected the PR, DHH or kling?
I suspect its DHH just making sure
Edit: Found it
Kling rejected with: “This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.”
For SerenityOS documentation to use a singular they to not assume gender.
Edit 2: For the record, this is even more stupid than you think. The documentation was written with gendered language for a male reader only in mind.
"Hey, I fixed your bad writing"
"POLITICS?!1?!%?!"
The tweet about Kirk has some firm context with this. I'd call it pretty dang likely that kling is a fan....
Let's not forget that Drew is the one that wants to burn Stallman at the stake.
You yourself are tagging the fascist guy as a fascist. Not all opinions are just opinions.
I'm labeling him that to make clear the irony of the situation
the supposedly "fascist" guy: has an opinion
the totaly "moderate" leftist guy: wants him gone even from his own project from it
hope I made myself clear now 👍
No, you did, but my point still stands. Not all opinions are just an opinion.
Person A: yeh we need to accept shootings. Empathy is damaging. So much more damaging crap.
Person B: they debated, such good people, we need more like them.
Yeah. No? My point is that there's a reason they get tagged as fascists or fascists apologists, they have fascist opinions or condone/glorify people saying them.
"Has an opinion" is an unacceptable generalisation in this case.
the "supposedly" fascist guy: ~~has an opinion~~ wants to get rid of people not like him and who did not do any wrong