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So GNOME is getting encrapified, just like KDE is. This is why I don't use either or, and just stick to WM's on X11/XLibre.
1/10 ragebait not even close
Observations aren't considered ragebaiting. That sounds completely silly, in my opinion.
lol alright enjoy
For anyone missing the context, xlibre is an X11 fork made by a guy salty he was banned from Red Hat for posting right wing conspiracy theories: https://linuxiac.com/xlibre-xserver-project-plans-revival-of-x11/
Strange, nowhere in the article you linked to does it say that "he was banned from Red Hat for posting right wing conspiracy theories".
So far, we have not seen any official statement from the CoC team at freedesktop.org explaining why metux was banned. Could you please provide a source for your claim?
Enrico Weigelt. He's also an anti-vaxxer moron. To quote his own words on the LKML: https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2106.1/04542.html
The only benefit I see in Xlibre is that it will attract idiots like him and and draw them away from projects with real merit.
What's wrong with KDE?
They have the audacity to put up an unintrusive pop-up asking for donation once per year, the two seconds dealing with that out of every 31,536,000 seconds is just way too much
Being the bleeding edge solution, it sometimes breaks itself trying to do something new.
When did KDE Plasma break itself last time? I never had any breaking issues on Plasma 5 or 6 using Arch.
Same, but on openSUSE Tumbleweed.
I don't believe my Plasma setup on Debian 13 to be bleeding edge.
Which is why you wait a week or four to upgrade.
GNOME and KDE are both supported primarily by donations. It's the only reason they're NOT shitty. I don't think simply asking for donation makes them "encrapified".
GNOME not being shitty is really debatable.
Yeah, i get it, wayland is so terrible, and pipewire even so, why do we need to do stuff in other ways when the old ways worked just fine for my specific use and had no problems that I understood anyway
I don't have too many issues with PipeWire, but the issues come from Wayland, which happened to be more issues than fixes than X11.
X11 is broken on anything but a bog standard 1080p 60hz monitor. It cant handle dual monitor support, it cant handle dual refresh rates, HDR, DPI scaling, NVIDA anything, High refresh rates, synced frames.
I have a 1080p@120hz and 768p@50hz at all times with no issues, I have TearFree enabled on xorg, so Iβve never understood what people meant with this
do you have an nvidia card?
No
ok then you are in the 3% of people not having this issue congrats.
I have X11 on a 1440p, 180Hz MSI monitor, and it does just fine for me. People just don't understand X11 anymore, and they seem to be the salty ones from the looks of things.
Your screen tears and your dpi scaling doesnt work. Thats not "working just fine". Its not that people dont understand X11 its that people are getting tired of being told to ignore half their features not working because a few people are used it them never working.
I had some issues back when I used an Nvidia GPU, but since switching to AMD, it's just a smooth as X11 from a bugs perspective, and has better performance and features.
I don't have that many issues on my NVIDIA GPU. NVIDIA just had bad drivers, realistically speaking, for years.
How? You can turn them off.
whats wrong with wayland wm's like sway
Wayland is not ready for primetime, despite improvements. It will never be prepared for mass adoption, as it completely destroys and fractures the Linux community. Many X11 developers know this.
Lol. No.