Android
The new home of /r/Android on Lemmy and the Fediverse!
Android news, reviews, tips, and discussions about rooting, tutorials, and apps.
🔗Universal Link: !android@lemdro.id
💡Content Philosophy:
Content which benefits the community (news, rumours, and discussions) is generally allowed and is valued over content which benefits only the individual (technical questions, help buying/selling, rants, self-promotion, etc.) which will be removed if it's in violation of the rules.
Support, technical, or app related questions belong in: !askandroid@lemdro.id
For fresh communities, lemmy apps, and instance updates: !lemdroid@lemdro.id
📰Our communities below
Rules
-
Stay on topic: All posts should be related to the Android OS or ecosystem.
-
No support questions, recommendation requests, rants, or bug reports: Posts must benefit the community rather than the individual. Please post to !askandroid@lemdro.id.
-
Describe images/videos, no memes: Please include a text description when sharing images or videos. Post memes to !androidmemes@lemdro.id.
-
No self-promotion spam: Active community members can post their apps if they answer any questions in the comments. Please do not post links to your own website, YouTube, blog content, or communities.
-
No reposts or rehosted content: Share only the original source of an article, unless it's not available in English or requires logging in (like Twitter). Avoid reposting the same topic from other sources.
-
No editorializing titles: You can add the author or website's name if helpful, but keep article titles unchanged.
-
No piracy or unverified APKs: Do not share links or direct people to pirated content or unverified APKs, which may contain malicious code.
-
No unauthorized polls, bots, or giveaways: Do not create polls, use bots, or organize giveaways without first contacting mods for approval.
-
No offensive or low-effort content: Don't post offensive or unhelpful content. Keep it civil and friendly!
-
No affiliate links: Posting affiliate links is not allowed.
Quick Links
Our Communities
- !askandroid@lemdro.id
- !androidmemes@lemdro.id
- !techkit@lemdro.id
- !google@lemdro.id
- !nothing@lemdro.id
- !googlepixel@lemdro.id
- !xiaomi@lemdro.id
- !sony@lemdro.id
- !samsung@lemdro.id
- !galaxywatch@lemdro.id
- !oneplus@lemdro.id
- !motorola@lemdro.id
- !meta@lemdro.id
- !apple@lemdro.id
- !microsoft@lemdro.id
- !chatgpt@lemdro.id
- !bing@lemdro.id
- !reddit@lemdro.id
Lemmy App List
Chat and More
view the rest of the comments
We kind of need the Linux Foundation or Fairphone or similar to fork android or create a solid base for an alternative. Otherwise, we are screwed.
Fairphone is already collaborating with a fork, /e/OS
I don't see that happening since the Linux foundation gets a bunch of funding from Google
Yes, but Google is probably happy to host their whole datacenter infrastructure on Linux and won't have to buy expensive Windows server licenses and wants to keep it this way.
Windows can't remotely keep up with Linux or even BSD
Ah yes, let's host a website on IIS
Wtf? So Google has basically “bought” the only competitor that isn’t big tech
The Linux foundation isn't a competitor at all. It gets all of its funding from big tech
They don't develop something unless it is useful to these companies.
they fund development for the servo browser. who is that useful for as of now?
I don't think the Linux foundation is doing any development themselves. Linux is open source, so anyone can contribute. I think the Linux foundation is like a legal entity and marketing kinda thing. I could be wrong about this though.
The individual members of the foundation most certainly do linux dev, which benefits their specific company. Think kernel or driver adjustments or supporting newer hardware for servers/datacenters.
However, that doesnt mean its only the foundation doing the work, thats just the paid work being done. The rest is all passion projects of people
Like lineoageOS?
AFAIK, LineageOS is not a fork but a version of Android that is built on top of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP).
Yeah we're boned, Everything we have Android like is AOSP based and as the changes happen, keeping them at bay will become unsustainable. Lineage, Graphine and Calyx are all AOSP based.
For now, it will likely be pretty easy for any of the forks to circumvent this particular change. I'm more worried about the future, it wouldn't be hard for them to start pushing store APK's to require proprietary hooks, there's a good chance that eventually people won't want to keep around Google and non Google versions of apps.
So you have Halium+VM for ~ ubuntu touch (still android drivers, but private)
Or postmarket derivatives, which is real linux, but is barely functional and has miserable battery life.
We're playing catch up for linux and we can get there, but available phones are super limited and none of the contenders are solid daily drivers yet.
Biggest problem I have is there's no good way to run Signal. If you do it in Halium under waydroid it eats power and getting it to run/keeping it updated under arm/linux is a part time job.
Luckily this shit (Google Play Protect) is in Google Play Services not AOSP.
The actual big change coming to AOSP is that development is going to start happening behind closed doors. You get the updated code when the new version is released, instead of seeing commits as they appear on the master branch. This might make it harder for the custom ROMs to keep up at all.
If this results in a noticeable decrease in apps available on 3rd party stores, this might be cause for some nice EU action, like they did with Apple. But I'm not too hopeful.
I imagine it would be the likes of Graphene, Lineage, Calyx, and some others at the core. Probably some hardware vendors like Fairphone, Shiftphone, and probably a Xiaomi or Huawei.
Edit: ROMs maintain their own code base, but I'm pretty sure OP was talking about a larger fork of AOSP. That's what I've suggested recently, anyway.
LineageOS has a great offering but you have to wait until your phone gets outdated because even hoping that it'll be compatible with your model
No you dont. Lineageos supports a lot of phones that are still supported by their manufactures. Hell my fp4 is still in support too, and lineageos runs fine on it :p
Youre thinking of unofficial lineageos builds and ports to non-supported-by-lineageos phones