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i would kill for button based menu navigation to come back
Why
ergonomic, don't have to move your hands.
tactile, don't have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing
"safer" since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip
But it eats into tbr screen size if implemented the old school Blackberry way, instead what I'd prefer is a under the screen slide out keyboard + navigation pad, like the Blackberry priv, or even the LG wing with the second display screen could have been an amazing form factor, allowing you to control the main display from the smaller customizable touch display at the bottom, at least my main screen wouldn't have all these finger smudges
Yes, but even just for menu navigation without keyboard would be an improvement. wouldn't have to use more space than the old physical home buttons.
However typing is the more frustrating element, so it would be nice.
Yeah something like the touch center button in the old Blackberry would be great for navigation, and they could add a fingerprint scanner to it like the old iPhone, and make that stupid top notch smaller
I can't even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you're an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.
Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn't be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway.
How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.
It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I'm making assumptions.
I don't use iPhone. I mean the button does not move, a touch interface might require input anywhere on the screen.
They are dynamic, but if you are doing the same task, they will do the same thing. Meaning if you are habitually doing a task, you can memorize it.
I am talking about gripping the whole device, not holding buttons. On a touchscreen device the whole thing is a button, so you only want to grab the bezel, which is as tiny as the designer can muster, to avoid accidental input. This makes for a less firm and ergonomic grip.
You are indeed making assumptions. How do you conclude that advocating for buttons is tied to the device that revolitionized the industry towards touch only?
I think iOS had gesture navigation long before Android, as default anyway.
But I’m pretty sure that person is talking about how it used to be before smartphones, when you really only needed the ok/enter button and the d-pad around it. Modern smartphones can’t be entirely navigated by a single thumb that you don't even move.
They prolly like murder or sth
everyone needs a hobby