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[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought eOS wasn’t trust worthy? I can’t remember why though but I remember reading something about why it wasn’t good to use

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I thought eOS wasn’t trust worthy? I can’t remember why though

...seriously? Why do you even repeat it then? The least you can do if you don't want to fuel rumors is to :

  • either ask a genuine question, rather than suggest the answer

or, IMHO better, actually

  • take just few minutes to find the claim, one way or another, so that at least people can clarify, either confirming what you found or rather explain why it's no correct.

I bet you are referring to https://lemmy.ml/post/35472063 simply because it's relevant recent and (sadly) quite popular... but unfortunately you can read my response, incorrect. OP there has their opinion (they clearly don't like Murena and /e/OS and prefer alternatives, perfectly fine) but unfortunately, and that's what honestly piss me off, make claims that are just not true. You can check the details there. Now is it trust worthy or not, that's up to you, just don't imagine that Murena services are mandatory in /e/OS based on that posts because (as others in this thread also confirmed) it is just a lie.

[–] Fairgreen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Nope that's just FUD from certain other OS developers who are super toxic against literally everyone

[–] Doorknob@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I think that's q bit overblown. You have an option to use a Murena account in place of a Google account. I just said no thanks and everything works perfectly fine with no services affected. In terms of security of privacy of the Murena account itself, no idea. Never used one.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My understanding is that it just redirects all the data collection from Google to Murena. Like you’re just trading one corp for another. That’s why some people have an issue with it anyway. Especially since GrapheneOS exists. I take a slightly more nuanced view that a lot of the conveniences modern smartphone users take for granted rely on this type of backend infrastructure. It’s sort of hard to avoid if you value mainstream features. That may be sort of a controversial viewpoint though.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it just redirects all the data collection from Google to Murena

Where did you see that? My understand is that it's only the case if you explicitly create then use a Murena account.

Also trading one corporation against another, in that case if the user genuinely want to (they are not being coerced), would be technically true but... Google is not "one corp". It's one of the largest corporation ever, one of the only two popular mobile OS. It does not mean automatically picking another corporation is better but it's definitely hard to do worst.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mostly through hearsay on here and Signal groups. I do agree the Murena-bad circlejerk has gone a little too far. I use an iPhone so I don’t have a dog in this race.

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

I think that’s what I saw someone say somewhere the point about data being directed to murena, but I suppose it depends on how murena handles data and what privacy policy’s are in place. That’s what I think many people would look at before deciding whether to use it or not