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To me it is about gaslighting and arguing for the sake of arguing. We've long been in this realm of society now where nobody wants facts or truths, they just want you to be wrong. I have before, cited resources in arguments I've shamefully invested in, knowing that it will not matter in the end. Because I'm still going to be called a liar, I'm still going to be subjected to insults and be baited and gaslit.

And the same people still turn around and expect credible sources to be provided to them? Why ask when you don't care?

It is one thing for someone to make outrageous, blatant and unclaimed arguments than it is another who talks of something and it has a resemblance of truth to it.

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[โ€“] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

I mean there are issues around facts and sources to begin with. I have had conversations around philosophies were the person wants to link things about the philosophy like it proves it or want to link something like opinion studies and want to say its a fact around the thing. So having a source does not mean anything as anything can be a source. Still its reasonable with a news article to want to see a credible source if the only source is like a blog that claims a bunch of stuff. All that being said I have been in conversations were I recognize that the person im talking with have fundamental differences of perspectives and no actual unassailable facts are being exchanged and I will start to say I disagree and eventually that look we fundamentally disagree so the convo should just end. I keep on going because they will respond with something that is a question.