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That's the rub. No one in a position of power or influence having the stones to say the truth is a big fucking problem.
What "truth"? Do you consider escalating political violence to be a good thing? That may be a valid opinion, but it's far from a verifiable truth. In the case of a leader of a country, whether or not it's a "truth" matters even less. Let's say Carney says exactly whatever it is you want him to say. Great. What does that gain the Canadian people? It will for sure antagonize Trump, so what's that cost? Do the gains outweigh the costs?
You’re getting downvoted but i think you make a good point. As long as he is working to extricate Canada from the US grip, i don’t care if Carney tells Trump what he wants to hear. It might even buy us some time.
Maybe statements that treat Kirk as just another activist conducting normal political activities give his movement too much credibility, though. My position is that Kirk was vile, but shooting his m did not stop Trump or remove him from power. Trump was going to find an excuse for everything he is doing anyway, so i doubt Kirk’s murder made things worse in that sense, but it also did little good.
Is it just how things are now that people pull whatever they want from a comment? I'm not talking about praising violence, I'm talking about saying that Kirk was a Nazi and he died because another Nazi adjacent moron didn't like the particular brand of hate he was spewing. He wasn't a good husband and father or a man just expressing his opinion freely; he was a hate and fear monger. Antagonizing Trump should be the point. But I guess you canucks are just as cowardly as most Americans.
Canada doesn't have the power (or really the responsibility) to deal with Trump. The Americans have to get their shit together and do that themselves. Antagonizing Trump is fine if it gains us something. In this case, it would gain us nothing, and likely cost us in the future. Doing self destructive things just for hollow "victories" that feel good is how Trump got into power in the first place. I have no interest in following that strategy.
Blowing kirk goes beyond not antagonizing, and only emboldens them to go farther in their planned purges.
If you can't say anything truthful, don't say anything at all in relation to a fucking Nazis. Because celebrating this guy's life is about as wrong headed as you can get.
Eschewing responsibility sounds about right.
How in the fuck is Canada in any way responsible for Trump's bullshit? Clean up your own mess.