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In addition to second-degree murder, Mangione will be tried in state court on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree, four counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, one count of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree and one count of criminal possession of a forged instrument in the second degree.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing

https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-returns-court-1st-time-5-months/story?id=125617908

https://www.commondreams.org/news/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges

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[–] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"second degree" murder is what's happening to me right now as I die laughing. How could you get more premeditated than this?

Fingers crossed that a jury still acquits despite this fuckery.

[–] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

Apparently FIrst Degree Murder in New York only applies when killing cops, public servants, judges and so on, killing while serving a life sentence, killing as a terrorist act, and in a few other edge cases. Premediatet murder is all "just" second degree murder in NY

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So even if he did it, he's technically not guilty of "second degree" murder?

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless he accidentally or impulsively stalked and killed the CEO on a spur of the moment, lol

[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

It'd be really funny if the defense somehow uses the false pre-meditation evidence to get the jury to not-guilty the 2nd degree murder charges.

Not sure how that would even work if they did but damn.