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I guess groypers who maybe had a romantic relationship with a LGBTQ person are "leftists" now.
Fuentes will be interested in this new development. He did allegedly suck off a fellow fascist one time. Someone get him a copy of Capital. Welcome!
Do we know for sure this guy was a groyper? Any evidence for any claim is tenuous at best IMO beyond that he was terminally online.
The Bella Ciao meme is a song on the GROYPER WAR playlist, that's what tipped off 4chan and made them panic and start making fun of Nick Fuentes fans
Also what leftist is so leftistly and murderously obsessed with Kirk, yet is happy making homophobic jokes and referencing furry memes popular among nazi gooners?
He's not a leftist because the government and media would be in the middle of a witchhunt for any popular leftist media figure he followed and providing the logs proving he followed them
Bella Ciao is also, and better known as, an antifascist song. To link him to groypers, simply because they have a song in a playlist, is uhhhhh… Pretty out there.
And I’m not pointing fingers at anyone with this, but leftists CONSTANTLY make gay jokes. I see it all the time, and I’ve noticed because, it made/makes me feel weird.
Do I believe he’s a leftist though? No, but I think you can see that these arguments fall flat.
a 22 year old black pilled gamer american from mormonsville utah is much more likely to have been introduced to bella ciao through a groyper war playlist than through some kind of historical research. a good high school in the us isn’t talking about bella ciao at all let alone what they teach in utah.
You’re probably right about that, yeah. And having been in Utahn schools, seminary is more important than history lol
At least in my circles, the gay jokes are different in way that's extremely important: being gay is fun and cool and a flex, not a denegration.
True, and good point. But I don’t think “if you read this you’re gay LOL” is exactly denigration either. I guess without his motive or history, it’s hard to say. For instance, I was watching a trans streamer over the weekend who made a similar joke. I guess that’s the catch, whether it’s ingroup or outgroup, right?
I definitely read that as a denegration, like it's supposed to be a gotcha: you shouldn't want to be gay, but now you read this and it's too late, you're gay, gottem.
Even if it's all "in-group" there can still be internalized homophobia and transphobia (I still catch myself with it too), so I wouldn't consider gay jokes to be automatically okay just because it's from someone LGBTQ+. The context and audience are extremely important.
Tyler knew his audience was law enforcement, which is traditionally homophobic, so I read it as being a try at edgy ragebait.
The "Groyper War" was directed against Charlie Kirk, hell of a coincidence an obscure anti-fascist song that groypers were using as a meme just happened to be referenced by a online brained shooter from a conservative MAGA family
And I'm sorry but I don't know what 22 year old leftists you're hanging out with, but the GenZ left does not make gay jokes like that, they'd consider it homophobic, then there's the furry meme groypers have been using all year
Like can we be for real, are the dots seriously not that obvious or is the millennial left having a generation wide boomer moment?
Well it hasn't fallen flat for 4chan, who've been making fun of Nick Fuentes fans for the last three days now
I mean besides all the "memes" being fairly straightforwardly groyper stuff?
Definitely terminally online. Deep into "gaming" (derogatory) "culture." 4chan stuff.
If the dude wasn't a groyper somehow then he's whatever you call someone who is a groyper in every other sense except they don't watch Fuentes and don't identify as a part of that sort of segment of the online right wing. I would personally just call that a groyper and move on. If you're putting 4chan memes on bullet casings to shoot someone, anyone, you know. That's some groyped up loser shit.
Luigi also (allegedly. He's innocent) had writings on the casings, but his was not steeped in deep blackpilled, 4chan, groyper style "memes." So he isn't thrown in with groypers even though his ideology also seems to have been mostly far right wing with the exception of a personal grudge with the healthcare industry in the US.
I'm not just calling all these groypers for fun or out of hand. Had he not targeted Kirk (Fuentes target for months/years) and had he not wrote on the casings, I'd probably just say "Typical deadender blackpilled school shooter looking to make his name famous." But I can tack on groyper because signs point that way. "Best case" is he was essentially aligned with groypers but somehow wasn't explicitly one. To me that doesn't matter much. 🤷
Luigi bullet casings: clever, poignant in meaning, suggests he is well read and well developed in his ideology
Tyler bullet casings: low effort meme slop, no coherent ideology
It's actually completely consistent with how the right often acts as a bizarro or distorted mirror reaction to the left. Like he wanted so badly to be the next Luigi, without understanding what exactly made Luigi so important and so popular. Irony shrouding how his social understanding only goes skin deep.
Even if we're celebrating the poetic demise of Charlie Kirk, none of us out here celebrating Tyler like we did Luigi.
Yeah.
Also the choice of target matters. The reason I overlook Luigi's disjointed but definitely right wing politics (he's an average American in that way) is because he arrived at a valid target. Allegedly. Free Luigi.
I'm never going to pretend to feel an ounce of anything for Kirk. At the end of the day though, despite his apparent rising prominence (even though I highly suspect that was astroturfed and basically "not real"), I don't feel he was the correct or even a beneficial target to take out for any cause I would like to see advanced.
Another vapid soulless husk will be propped up in his spot once they shovel his corpse into the ground. He'll be forgotten except on some dumbshit yearly remembrance thing right wingers jack off to.
While a CEO is and was easily replaced, I can't argue much with that target. Everyone in the country and world hates those guys. Especially fucking health insurance CEOs. The only more popular target might be, I dunno, a Black[noun] CEO. I'll avoid naming names because I don't want some jackbooted eighth grade dropout kicking my door in and demanding I... stop observing reality.
When I saw that video of Luigi (allegedly) I had to rewatch it like 100 times. He made that shit look so fucking effortless and cool. It helped that the target 100% deserved it. I think I even laughed a little bit. It's probably a reflection on how good things still surprisingly are for Americans that every kid from like 16-25 wasn't immediately 3D printing guns and you know. Practicing. In a legal, safe environment.
If they keep dropping quality of life... history already says what the results will be. On one hand millions of people will have a miserable existence. On the other hand when people have absolutely nothing to live for they might start tossing dynamite at the Tsar. Probably something would-be Tsars should consider.