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Romania says a Russian drone has breached its airspace - the second Nato country to report such an incursion.

Romanian fighter jets were in the air monitoring a Russian attack in Ukraine on Saturday and were able to track the drone near Ukraine's southern border, the defence ministry said in a statement. 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said the incursion could not be a mistake - it was "an obvious expansion of the war by Russia". Moscow has not commented on the Romanian claims.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said the incursion could not be a mistake - it was "an obvious expansion of the war by Russia". Moscow has not commented on the Romanian claims.

Poland I can believe, as a one time Russian mistake or guidance error, but Romania on the other side of Ukraine, not next to Russia or Belarus. I'm now supposed to believe that these decoy drones are suddenly just flying across Ukraine to Romania?

It's fucking Ukraine who is sending these. This is the Russian s-300 missile kills polish farmers of 2022 all over again. Remember when that was totally the case that Russia killed poles and Zelensky said this is a mark of Russian aggression and Nato would need to intervene. Then it was pretty quickly stated S-300 didn't have the range to fly from Russian AA battery across Ukraine and into Poland and then they discovered that the missile was an model that only Ukraine had anymore. So everybody went hush hush and it was written down as an tragic accident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_missile_explosion_in_Poland

Ukraine is the one who is losing and needs Nato intervention to not lose totally or have to settle for peace that Kiev doesn't want. Or am I just going to have to believe that out of the blue for 4 year of war Russia suddenly starts pelting neighboring countries with not scout drones, not drones with warheads, but with a decoy drones that have been falling over Ukraine almost nightly air raids for years now, since unless they are shot down as they are supposed to they just fall down on the ground with very little harm to the drone. Why? Russia preparing for an attack, sending a message? It's Ukraine who is doing this. They want a no fly zone, boots on the ground, and Nato AA in Ukraine, because Kiev are dry regarding AA and will lose the war otherwise if they don't get Europeans to die for them too.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

The drones don't even have the range to go from Russia to Romania last I looked.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's their only smart choice. Russia may be fucking up big but in a war of attrition Ukraine will lose sooner or later.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah it's rational (though i don't believe Ukraine was the smol bean at any point, in 2022 they had second biggest army in Europe and were pumped with absolutely ridiculous amount of arms and money by west, and so Russia is not especially fucking up) but there are two points. First is how many people here and elswhere are completely dismissing the possiblity Ukraine is even doing it, while it does come as obvious to even such idiot like Duda. Second is that it is not a very good form that a country is openly lying and is trying to pull in a war countries that are its supporters and do not want to be included in open warfare, not to mention it can easily end up in nuclear exchange.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Russia is still a bigger military, Europe didn't pick a fight with them. Russia is definitely fucking up as usual and just throwing men and equipment at it with no particular logic involved.

They're already involved in a way they just haven't accepted it. No country wants to get involved but I'm sorry eventually they have to.