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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

While you're right, there's still a big difference from legal immigrants who were granted temporary residence and illegal immigrants. The former were allowed into the country for a limited duration of time, but the latter weren't allowed in the first place.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's people that qualified for a process, then that process was suspended/ eligibility is changed etc etc etc.

"Illegal immigrants" basically all start as legal migrants working through the paperwork.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree with you that the country's migration system needs an overhaul, however being impatient or dissatisfied with the current system is not an excuse to cross into the country illegally.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But you can't tell if you will be here illegally, because the rules are obtuse or change.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The process gets longer or shorter depending on the administration, but the general immigration rules have been more less the same. The only thing that I can think of that can apply to what you're saying is the temporary protection program, but that's a whole different subject.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. Immigration programs change.

https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-postwar-immigration-policy

Look at all the times things have changed. What do you think happens to the people that are established that no longer qualify and are part way through the process?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I mean the criticism you're providing is fair imo, and I don't necessarily disagree with wanting more clarity and consistency, however, I'm not referring to people who end up being illegal immigrants due to things out of their control like a change of legislation. I'm talking about people who intentionally chose to come illegally, especially those who do so because they're not satisfied with the system.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see you took your idiot pills this morning.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yours wasn't very good, and everyone else already told you what was wrong with it. Figured I'd keep it simple in case you had trouble following.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I had an argument, you don't. The reason for that is simple, you're incapable of defending your views on their own merits so you results to these low level insults. In the end, it means nothing because you're showing that you have nothing of value to say.