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[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I know, right? I've never missed the 20s and 30s of last century more. (At that time, an astounding amount of American women went to the USSR, fleeing economic downturn and gender inequality. All preteen girl me ever wanted after learning that tidbit, was to be like them. Still wish sometimes that I could just run off to a socialist state and that doing so would fix all of my problems.)

There are historical accounts of the US, during the early Red Scare, before the Great Patriotic War happened and then immediately after the Western Allies all totally hung the Soviets out to dry and the Cold War began in earnest, deporting radicals and communists, many of whom were Americans, and were not under any genuine suspicion of being Soviet agents, to the USSR. Just to get rid of them. Very much "He's a communist. Send him to the commies. Let Moscow ask the questions. Wash our hands of it." (There is no documentation I found that this was widespread - just that it happened on a few noted occasions, and was proposed or threatened on some other occasions.) This was obviously a horrible practice, but there were times as a kid, dealing with reactionary idiots and sitting in the admin office of a Catholic school, or a diocese building, being asked the Communist Party question for the fifteenth time in four days, that I would have absolutely taken "be sent to the USSR" over "endure another who knows how many months of this before your mother finally gets them to give up". And that was post Cold War. Wouldn't be surprised if that was threatened as an interrogation tactic, and most threatened with it would consider it an easy way out of trouble.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I recognize it as something of an escapist fantasy at this point, that doesn't stop it from appealing all the same. I'm something of a public figure given my career, so I'm having to seriously warn my family that I may be targeted by stochastic violence or, increasingly, state violence. They used to think I sounded crazy but increasingly they're ideating avoidance and safety strategies with me. I just wish they were this proactive 5 years ago when I first started raising the alarm. Fuckin liberals. A day late and a dollar short every time.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 7 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, same. I feel a lot differently about just showing up on the Warsaw Pact's doorstep and taking advantage of other peoples' revolutions now than I did when I was 12, even if it was theoretically and practically possible for me to do so. I still wish I could stroll into the Soviet Embassy tomorrow with a terrified crying rant about fearing for my life and the lives of my immediate family as a known communist in the West, every time something happens in the States that looks like the Reichstag Fire.

Fuckin liberals. A day late and a dollar short every time.

Oh, tell me about it. I was actually shocked when my mom called Trump a fascist after the 2024 US election. My expectations of liberals, especially here on Turtle Island, are genuinely so low, that I expected her to be still denying it was fascism up until there were concentration camps and Aktion T4. And even then, I doubted she'd compare it to the Nazis. But she compared the guy to Hitler, not one week after the election. And I was just. So glad she could see it. Because liberals never see anything. It's such a crazy low bar, and I still wasn't expecting any liberals at all to clear it. Especially not ones I know personally who are extremely politically unconscious and disengaged.