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[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you see the footage ? Yes a hollowpoint / soft tip round is intended to open up, but if a 30-06 hollowpoint had hit his neck, half of it would be gone, which it wasn't.

It was probably 30 cal (entry hole looked too big for .223) but something with a lot less oomph than a 30-06, and probably not an expanding round either, even from something with less punch.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes and no the entry to a 30.06 is not huge, the exit will be, if it exits. The footage doesn't show the exit.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agree totally. The entry wound is going to be 30cal sized. It's the exit that's the question. If it's a solid there's no way a 30-06 slug wouldn't have kept going and hit something else (like the people behind him), if as was suggested it was a hollowpoint then in my experience the exit wound is going to be several inches in diameter (based on deer and pigs) on a human neck that means at least half his neck would have disappeared.

Neither of those two things happened on the video, hence me doubting the calibre.

On what I saw I'd be guessing 243, or 30-30 maybe even 300 blackout if we hadn't seen a rifle pic, if the pictured rifle is correct than 300 BLK is way too new.

Anyway, pure speculation as a hunter based on my experience with animals. Just doesn't match what I've observed.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I agree, if it's 30-06 then it had to have been something that deformed heavily upon impact, and if it hit bone that might have been enough to stop it to not exit fully.