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New: Bidenworld explodes at Harris over the book excerpt after years of simmering tensions. "Vice President Harris was simply not good at the job," said one former Biden White House official. "She had basically zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams, and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that exposed how out of depth she was."

Biden is "not the reason she struggled in office or tanked her 2019 [presidential] campaign," the ex-official said. "Or lost the 2024 campaign, for that matter. The independent variable there is the vice president, not Biden or his aides."

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 103 points 4 days ago (3 children)

No, Biden very clearly was fundamental to the 2024 loss.

Now, if she had been able to run a full campaign, if he had stepped aside from the very start, then yes we'd probably still be here today with Trump in office. But she was not given the space to fail on her own merits.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 82 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Absolutely, the person who got like 3% of the Dem primary vote had horrendous popularity, but Biden also made absolute sure she wouldn't even be allowed to fail on her own merits.

[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I lived in Oakland during that time, and she didn't even win there. I remember seeing graffiti of her as a cop.

Iirc in 2020 primaries Biden was also doing like shit until all the ghouls pooled their cementary electorate on him in order to stop Bernie.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago

they gave her the old glass cliff treatment but she would've certainly also failed on her own merits so i'm not sure it counts

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

she had built up some good momentum for a while. she sabotaged herself leading up to the election. i think she failed on her own merits

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She or her advisors decided to abandon anything that was popular or made her look good

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago

They definitely added to it

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She had good momentum for a week, tops. Basically until she started speaking. So, arguably her own merits.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She had momentum right after the Walz pick and people thought “oh so she might actually do something good for a change”. Walz was unintentionally showing her up so they muzzled him and brought in Liz fucking Cheney as her unofficial VP, and the rest is history.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

The fact that "Send in the National Guard" Walz was more popular than her speaks volumes lol

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

The fact that she almost succeeded and fucked up doesn't change that her chances were severely sabotaged