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It's a pretty decent shot for your average joe, but by no means something that requires a "professional". Anyone with a little experience with rifle hunting usually has a grouping of 3-4 inches or better at 200 yards. Assuming they were aiming center mass, they were ranged high by about 4-5" high, but dead center for windage.
So imo a good shot considering the nerves that come with the situation, but a bit sloppy if we were talking about target shooting at the range.
People treating a 200 m shot like it’s a Hitman style assassination is blowing my mind, yes it was a precise single shot, but immediately going “specops marksman inside job” for that distance is wild
americans see one instance of actual competence and lose their minds
It's not anything to sneeze at considering the circumstances, I've whiffed worse at 200 yards on a deer. However, it's not exactly going to require Jason borne or anything.
Exactly, it’s the Jason Bourne part I’m criticizing
a little rough with irons from the shoulder, pretty easy with a scope and anything to set the gun on. main issues are going to be wind and not zeroing the scope with the ammo you're using on the big day.
I'd say it would be an excellent shot with irons from the shoulder, but my eyes aren't what they used to be. Windage and zeroing aren't really a factor at 200 yards unless the wind is extreme. Even with bad wind at 200 yards most of your hunting caliber rounds will only drift 2-3 inches at most. Most long range rifles are zeroed at 200-300 yards.
He was dead center for windage, just a bit high for range. The main issue is this scenario is mainly nerves, which is prob why his range was 4-5 inches high, prob jerked on the trigger a little or his rifle was ranged for 300-400 yards. Can't say I haven't whiffed it worse while hunting at that distance, and I wasn't in immediate danger of being arrested or killed by a game warden or anything.
Imo a real decent shot for most shooters with a bit of experience when considering the circumstances. Adrenaline is a real big factor when it comes to accuracy, really fucks with your fine motor skills.
yeah i was thinking buildings make for weird gusts sometimes
Makes me think about those Hollywood shootout guys from back in the day who pregamed muscle relaxers
To be fair, USAians don't know what a meter is
how many football fields
How many tomatoes?
And reports kept confusing if it was 200ft or 200yd
It's me. I'm the problem. It's me. It seems like an incredible shot. 2.5x the distance of Lee Harvy Oswald who took multiple shots. I know nothing about guns. It would seem to me like it required foresight and planning, especially if you have a getaway plan. Then you have to keep yourself steady when it's showtime as well indicated experience to me.
Is that something an amateur marksman can do? It seems really well executed.
Experience maybe; but immediately going to “Mossad sniper” raises my eyebrows
I ran away with the idea that it would take a soldier to get that kind of experience. Mossad seems a little dubious because they're on the same side. Seems like Mamdani or Hasan would get their ire first. So I guess my line of thinking runs dry if I try to ascribe an active soldier carrying out an entity's will
Well Mossad because it’s a false flag to crack down on antizionist elements in society. But I gotcha
Like honestly I think reinforcing the "this was a pro" "this was Israel/Ukraine" conspiracy theories is the best way to spare the left a bit of extra pressure. The right wing conspiracy folks are fighting over who did it right now.
Maybe in non-left spaces, I don’t see the harm in discussing it honestly here. If the bullet engravings are genuine (doubt), then it doesn’t matter anyway
Why couldn't you do the same thing with Hasan? You do some honest-to-god terrorism and you can crack down all the same. You also don't lose the head of a big mouth piece of yours.
I misread it as “lose a Big Head mouth piece”
Martyrdom goes both ways maybe? Killing Hasan could galvanize more people into radial politics just like killing Kirk could inspire conservatives targeting liberals? To be clear I don’t personally believe this was an op (yet)
I want to believe it was an op so badly, but I know how easy it is to get sucked into bullshit even when it feels real. Like I came into this conversation with an axe to grind, but I was really hoping to be talked out of it.
Oh, definitely. Guns are easier to shoot than you think. Put in a few hours of practice and you hit this shot any day.
Sure, but there's also the planning, the escape route, the not getting spotted/identified, the stress. There's a lot pointing at someone with more than just casual experience.
the police are not very good at their jobs, the shooter probably just got lucky
its literally a professional hit wym lol, the shooter being a pro or not doesn't really matter, the hit was a pro hit.
i was joking for the record