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Doesn't look good!!

Edit: Saw a closeup, he's πŸ’― dead. Jugular shot and it gushes like the Cool-Aid man shattered.

Edit 2: Fox is apparently reporting that he's admitted to the hospital, maybe he's a snowball that survived hell?

Edit 3: Mixed reporting on if the shooter has been arrested or not. A video showed an old bald white dude in custody.

Edit 4: Trump just had to be the one to announce it... He's dead. Apparently the old white dude was not the shooter. You can see from the distant video that people did not react to a close shooter, it was at distance.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

As competent though? As skilled?

Nigel Farage in the UK has been forged through 40+ years of functioning as a crypto-fascist. Replacing the skillset that makes some of these fascists effective is not as simple as just bringing on the next guy in line.

Materialists do not disbelieve that great men exist, but that the conditions of the time created them and that without their existence other people would have been forged under the same circumstances. But what I am getting at here is that this is not an instantaneous process. You think if Bannon dies tomorrow someone else will just replace him? I do not. The man has been forged through decades and decades filling a niche that someone else will have to fill AND acquire the same experience before meeting the same standard he has.

Look at the competent ghouls like Kissinger vs the incompetent ghouls that currently exist. Do any of them hold a candle to him as a competent monster? No. Not really.

The death of ghouls creates holes that take many decades to fill effectively again.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

How many times was the heads of ISIS and Al Qaeda killed? 10? 20? They still took over Syria and are spreading throughout Africa. It’s not easy to replace experience, but there are a lot of other experienced people in the wings.

Kirk wasn’t all that competent or smart anyway. Seemed entirely mid and unremarkable to me.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 12 hours ago

How many times was the heads of ISIS and Al Qaeda killed? 10? 20? They still took over Syria and are spreading throughout Africa.

Not comparable. For a myriad of reasons these people are willing to die for it.

but there are a lot of other experienced people in the wings

But are the competent ones willing to die for it?

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Bush wasn't killed, neither was obama

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I just want to confirm you're describing Charlie Kirk as "competent" and "skilled"

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago

Be real. Turning Point has done some truly evil work.