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By AMELIA THOMSON-DEVEAUX
Updated 11:08 AM EDT, September 8, 2025

Capitalism’s image has slipped with U.S. adults overall since 2021, the survey finds, and the results show a gradual but persistent shift in Democrats’ support for the two ideologies over the past 15 years, with socialism rising as capitalism falls. The shifts underscore deep divisions within the party about whether open support for socialism will hurt Democrats’ ability to reach moderates or galvanize greater support from people who are concerned about issues like the cost of living.

...But Democrats under 50 are much less likely to view capitalism favorably, while the opinions of Democrats ages 50 and older haven’t shifted meaningfully, according to Gallup.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

See this is again the problem. You state I agreed with something then make a bunch of statements like its fact. I disagree with your belief of how the anti trust laws came to be. You show a chart showing the increase of wealth inequality since the seventies and then draw a line for the dissolution of the USSR and state you belief it was the cause even while ignoring the putin era of russia aggression which then should theoretically cause it to go back down by your logic. And its wonderful that chinese have feelings like people in the us. All humans have feelings like that but the chart has no bearing on the reality of the chinese system or the reality that trump is looking to be more like chi or putin or kim. The argument that democracy is weaker because of X is again something Im not sure if im making clear but since everything on the earth. including democracy. is not perfect. Anyone can make a statement like that. Everything x is weaker because of something y. It can't be said for socialism because there has never been a socialist state with enough democracy to be significant enough to weaken.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why on Earth would Putin make wealth inequality in the US go down? Russia is no longer socialist, it isn't showing an alternative to the US.

Secondly, China is more democratic than the US, Trump is the same as every other US president, a stooge of the capitalist class.

Third, socialist states are more democratic than capitalist ones, because the working class has control.

You're dramatically misinterpreting me.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Im not misinterpreting Im disagreeing. You don't seem to get that. You think china is more democratic than the us. I certainly do not. You think trump is like every other president. I do not. I see no difference in socialist russian times and now other than ukraine seemed to be the best part of the ussr when it was a part of it. I do not agree socialist states have been more democratic. Its not misinterpreting. When someone disagrees with you because your beliefs of reality are completely different there is no change just from slightly modifying your statement of beliefs with alternate language.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You misinterpreted the reason the dissolution of the USSR caused a spike in wealth inequality in the US. It was because the Soviet Union, throughout its existence, stood as a strong example of what socialism can bring for the working class. Without such an alternative, the US ruling class was free to do as it liked. Modern Russia is capitalist, it's not the same in any way.

As for your disagreements, they don't really have backing. That's what's frustrating about it, really.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't agree the dissolution in the ussr caused a spike in wealth inequality. That happened when the us abandoned progressive politics after the seventies. Whats frustrating for me is someone trying to push their beliefs on me and suggest they are factual while my actual beliefs are just beliefs. I have mentioned before. We disagree, I see no common ground to get to agreement. We are in a pointless back and forth.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The US didn't adopt positions it did in a vaccuum.