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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 55 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

So, yes and no - It was the "Department of War" for most of the country's existence. Truman changed it in 1947 when doing a massive overhaul of the military and intel parts of the government. Also, just calling "Department of Defense" hasn't prevented us from getting into a whole mess of wars since then.

I do agree that it's a sign of the times in terms of "everything old is new again" and undoing the 20th century, which is the T47/project 2025 stated goal. Sure as shit, we're making incredible progress towards returning to 1860.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

1860 had vaccine mandates.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

FDR changes name from War to Defense, and Congress hasn't declared War since. They're just special military operations

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 23 points 10 hours ago

Pretty much. We bombed Vietnam and killed a bunch of middle eastern people. Just a bunch of special military operations.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Looking into it, the department of war had removed the navy 150 years before. Arguably the DoD was a new department to encompass the department of the navy and the department of the army(the previous department of war) without the implication that the army was in charge being associated with the war department without the navy for so long. The naming, I could argue, is disrespectful to the US Navy of the late 1790s to the late 1940s.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

Well, the overhaul in 1947 was huge, so it made sense to wrap it all up into something that also, in a post-WWII country, didn't make it sound like "OK, we have this amazing military apparatus and now we've consolidated power, and let's see where else to point it at..." I get it.

Personally, I think the "Department of International Violence" sounds more appropriate.