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The article alleges that Matrix:

  • has links to Israeli intelligence.
  • sends a lot of sensitive data to matrix.org servers, even when Synapse is self-hosted.

Is this information accurate?

To be clear, I'm not saying Matrix is bad. I'm still using it. I just want to know more about it and who's running the show, and hear other people's opinions and arguments. Thanks for all the insightful comments.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In my opinion, it doesn't matter. Matrix has a huge decentralization problem. Pretty much any conversation you have there will end up on matrix.org servers. And since Matrix servers collect ALL the metadata, the entire platform is susceptible to blanket warrants for all users.

[–] tad_lispy@europe.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That wouldn't apply to conversations you have within a group that hosts their own server, would it? Like within a family or a club.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If anyone in your group has an account is hosted on Matrix.org, yes. If no one is, no.

But that puts a huge limitation on the platform so, why bother?

[–] anytimesoon@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't this the same limitation of any federated platform? If you communicate with someone from a different instance your data will be replicated on their instance

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, not all platforms store metadata, much less absolutely all of it unencrypted. Further, other platforms are less centralized.

[–] tad_lispy@europe.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

What's a better alternative? Which other platforms are you referring to? How do they compare in terms of features and adoption? From all the decentralised, e2e encrypted platforms I tried, matrix is the only one more or less accessible for normies.