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Do you have a habit of putting your twisted thoughts in the mouth of others? It's a bad habit, so please don't do that! If you are so petty, you need to attack me for something I write, do that. But making up stories about others in your own petty head, and then attacking them for it - is low!
Hoping for a company to make a chat app
Are we paying for fediverse services? Are there any companies involved?
Matrix is federated, private, and free...
What exactly did I make up? Were you hoping for a company to make a for-profit federated app?
You may not be, but many of us are. None of it is free, from development to hosting to administrating. That works okay for now, but might be a limiting factor.
Edit: I also thing community stewardship could work better than it does.
I was responding in the context of users paying for access, the same thing OC was talking about. You would then need to create a for-profit entity in order to be able to charge for the use of the app.
Mozilla is more an organisation than a company. It turns profit to work for the free internet, in a world where companies with billions oppose it. But yeah, I'm sure that this federated (which also means an organisation of a sort) will prevail on it's own. Nice banner you have here - and the following is surely huge! ;-)
And feddit du cost money - the cost is just shared by the ones making and maintaining the serves and software. But hey, keep believing it's free...
Matrix is not free. It might be private - who knows for sure? And it's not used by many...
Where did I write "for profit"? Are you really that clueless? A reasonable price, is what it cost to develop and maintain it, and promote it. You know, just like Mozilla does. It's not a "for profit" company, it's an organisation for internet privacy and freedom. So please stop you lies. That's a childish way to try to argue!
There are 2 organizations, the Mozilla foundation and it's subsidiary the Mozilla corporation. The corp is a for-profit entity, they're the ones developing software, and generating revenue (mainly through the Google search deal).
Source? The main opposition to Mozilla are ad agencies, and former employees who think they've abandoned their values (pocket, Google, AI, MDN, etc.). Their main opposition in the browser space has been keeping them afloat for years.
Wtf are you talking about? Learn what the federated part of fediverse means.
Also, love how you're talking shit about federated services on a federated service. You can't make this up.
No shit hosting cost money, I was specifically talking about the cost to the end user, the same thing as you...
Lmao
Matrix is a FOSS protocol, and there are multiple FOSS apps using that protocol. You can even host it on your own if you want to be absolutely sure nobody can get any possible metadata. You literally can't get more sure than that unless you write it yourself...
Again, the Mozilla corporation is a for-profit entity, and that's why they're able to charge for premium services...
Do a bit of research instead of spouting nonsense, calling names, and throwing tantrums. It's not very mature.
You are funny. Pocket is a core value?!?
I'm talking truth about a federated service on a federated service. Can't you handle that? Are you too fragile for that?
And childish as you are, you assume you know what I'm talking about. That's just a pathetic move! Learn to debate, and stop lying!
I know your reading comprehension, or thinking for that matter, is not so good, but try to take the whole sentence and figure out how those examples fit in.
Don't worry, I can handle laughing at you just fine. You seem to be losing it though.
Holy shit, this must be what talking to Trump is like. You see an argument you don't like, start screaming incoherent nonsense and fake news, mix in a few insults that make you feel superior, and end up thinking you're debating anything.
... Says the one with the brain and paranoia of Trump...