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Almost 900 arrested at Palestine Action demonstration in London, police say
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Police who uphold authoritarian system by committers of genocide deserve a blade between the ribs.
So you are suggesting murder? You first.
I’m suggesting justifiable homicide against authoritarians. One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. Killing an authoritarian pig stormtrooper is the same as killing a Nazi, slave owner, or a Russian/IDF soldier, all are morally justifiable.
Ok. Like I said, you go first.
Can’t. Disabled. I’m the type of people that the people you defend will liquidate first after your appeasement has run its course and they don’t have to pretend anymore.
Ah yes, you're totally not a fraud. Me simply stating your keyboard warrior shit is weak means I am a fascist. Your argument is airtight.
No one said YOU were a fascist, only that you give fascists cover by stating that the people need to deal peacefully with them. The UK is literally arresting and jailing people for speaking out against genocide and supporting freedom for Palestine and your solution is strong language and peaceful protest.
The only thing that stops government violence is populist violence. I’m sorry that offends your sensibilities, but I am absolutely in favor and supportive of violence being used against oppressors.
As others have said, murdering a low level police officer isn't necessarily justified or going to help a SINGLE thing.
Following that line of thinking, it would make no sense for American revolutionaries to kill British soldiers, or for Palestinians to kill IDF, or for European resistance fighters to kill Nazi soldiers. Killing low level stormtroopers “just following orders” is the same as killing an occupying soldier “just following orders.” In both instances, you have low level individuals just going along with a status quo that leads to more victimization of innocents. Police who don’t want to become targets should either fight against oppressive tactics internally, or quit and deprive the force of manpower.
We really don't need to argue here.
Whose arguing? I’m just having a spirited debate on the role violence has in balancing the power dynamic between the ruling class and the governed. I don’t believe that governments should have a monopoly on violence for achieving their goals and that the people have just as much a right, if not more, in using violence as a tool to prevent objective evils.
I perceive a conversation where I'm being accused of doing something horrible as an "argument"
So you’re no longer defending fascists against violent retribution by the people? Do you consider agents of a fascist regime (i.e. police) to be exempt from justified violent action by anti-fascists? Should police action in furtherance of fascist policies only be faced with peaceful protest, or is it morally justifiable to not be tolerant of intolerance, up to and including violence?
Yeah and they are calling you a shitbag coward for posting these violent fantasies on Lemmy. But go ahead and expedite the UK blocking free social media so you can mentally masturbate to killing folks.
"Everyody talkin 'bout peace. None of them are talking 'bout justice."
I won’t argue that I don’t have violent fantasies. I 100% wake up every single morning and hope that I’m going to read a story about someone finally losing hope and fighting back against their oppressors.
Funny how you blame me for the UK collectively punishing its populace because of a few “bad actors” post that they think it’s morally permissible to kill fascists and authoritarian stooges. Instead of being mad at me for advocating that people fight for their freedoms, maybe you should be more angry with your government for taking them away and criminalizing opposition to genocide. Just a thought.
No one "blames" you for anything outside of your skull and for my part, not even most of that. What is being pointed at is the consequences of actions. Paint splashed on vehicles gave incredible justification to the UK government, what actions will the murder of an officer give rise to? What will it accomplish?
This line of thinking is nothing more than violent ideation and yeah, I fall for it as well. What I do not do is give into it, and I do not use it to justify cries for violence writ large on what is practically the only platform worth engaging in. Cooler heads may disagree.
Lessons not learned in blood are soon forgotten. Show me a peaceful resistance that has resulted in lasting change. The greatest movements in the power dynamic between the ruling class and the governed always require violence.
Show me the anon internet post that has done anything whatsoever. Vomiting a wish into a keyboard for others to overcome your own cowardice is tap dancing in clown shoes.
So no lone wolf attacks on fascists have ever been inspiring by online shit posting? Let’s give it some time and see what the people come up with
Hence the cowardice.
The starting salary for a police officer is around £30k, going up to £48k. Many of these people are just trying to do a job as best they can to get by, they are following orders. We can only hope most of these people will do the right thing if things become extreme.
We shouldn't condone attacking people for doing their job, that is what leads to good causes being flagged as terrorism.
“Just following orders” hasn’t been a valid defense since Nuremberg. If “following orders” was a valid defense, there would be a lot of camp guards who wouldn’t have been brought to justice after the war. All humans have agency to either victimize innocents or not. Police officers can choose to not be pigs the same way soldiers can choose to not be murderous Nazis.