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The Palestinian resistance group Hamas marked 700 days of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza on Friday, calling it a “stain on humanity” and urging the international community to take decisive action against the ongoing atrocities.

In a statement, Hamas highlighted its efforts to reach a ceasefire and a prisoner exchange agreement, stressing that it had “shown significant flexibility” in negotiations.

The movement blamed the repeated failure of mediators on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and called him “a war criminal committed to undermining diplomatic initiatives, pursuing indefinite plans of extermination and displacement, and placing the lives of captives at risk to serve his government’s agenda.”

Hamas renewed its call to the international community, including Arab and Islamic countries, the UN, and its organs, particularly the UN Security Council, to “fulfill their responsibilities toward the Palestinian people and intervene to halt the crimes of the fascist occupation government.”

The movement emphasized the need for “punitive measures against Israel,” warning that “mere condemnations are insufficient” and that, without substantial consequences, Israel would “continue its crimes without regard for international protests or positions.”

Hamas also praised global grassroots solidarity with the Palestinian people and welcomed the launch of the Global Sumud Flotilla, an initiative to break the blockade on Gaza.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That's anttisemetic. Both side are semite but you think it is in their nature to fight each other. Yes Any group of people can live in peace again like many periods before that you chose ignore. If germany who almost exterminate jews is not israel strongest ally, if countries that was enemy in the deadliest conflict ever can be become allies palestinians and israel can to.

You clearly don't believe in any solution neither a one or two state but you are in denial and don't realize it

Palestinians said you end occupation, we drop arms. Certain arabs offered a one state since the beginning, before the nekba. The plo also offered it

There was people like you who was tslking about how aparteith can't end in south africa because black South african would have took vengence for all the year of oppression

Did you ever ask any rrgular palestinian what they mean by from river to the sea palestine is free?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with their nature, nobody is born hating anyone, that's learned behavior.

Both sides have stated, repeatedly, that they believe they are owed exclusive rights to the territory of Israel to the exclusion of all others.

That belief is inherently the source of the conflict. It's taught and learned and re-inforced by repeated violent acts.

It can't be stopped by anyone other than an external 3rd party stepping in and treating them like the misbehaving children they are. "I don't care who started it, both of you go to your rooms."

But nobody has the will to step up and tell them to knock this shit off.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

If you don't believe that it is in their blood, why do you believe if israel end occupation , palestinians would still try to destroy israel? And why did you said a one state with equal rights will never happen when history is full of enemies turning to ally? Why are you ignoring one state proporsal by arabs?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

"From the River to the Sea". Both the Palestinians and Israelis hold on to this. The only thing either will be satisfied with is the complete obliteration of the other.

There needs to be a forced separation. "You, go over here, you go over there, leave each other the fuck alone."

They won't do it themselves because they legitimately believe they have a right to ALL the territory.

This is why you get the numerous illegal Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory over and over and over again.

https://www.crisisgroup.org/visual-explainers/israeli-settlements/

Israel isn't going to stop it, they don't want to stop it. They want full occupation.

Palestine physically can't stop it.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

You didn't answer a single question i asked in my last response. And from river to the sea palestinians means different thing from different person. The original use was by plo to refer to a one state and many other anti occupation believe the same. Just because some people hijacked the term doesn't mean we can't use it. Similar how conservstive hijacked the term woke from black people. You can disagree with the formulation i have no problem with that but please don't use it to talk about how all antioccupation people want to destroy israel. It is factually false

Israel isn't going to stop it, they don't want to stop it. They want full occupation. Palestine physically can't stop it.

Maybe yes maybe not. Other people when was occupied may have thought the same like indian. Indian still got their freedom after 200 years. The longest occupation i believe was 700 years.

You can't expect palestinians to do nothing , at some point people are not in mental state to think rationally and to not take revenge legimate or not. That is not an justification but an acknowledge of the context and the issue to try to solve it.

If you lived in a word where someone can kill your family and your neighborhood and oppress other people you know and the police and the government know about it and let it happen . Not that only but they are protecting the killer. Trust me you would take vengence and cause a massacre

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstand, I'm not here to answer your questions and have no obligation to answer them.

I'm explaining to you the situation on the ground over there with all the links necessary to understand it.

It's not that the Palestinians need to do more or have been doing the wrong things, it's that after being blockaded by Israel since the 90s they are physically incapable of doing anything effective. They don't have the resources.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

They can't do it themselves, Israel won't allow anything else, it's going to require an external 3rd party to stop it and the world powers don't have the will to do it.

So what we're going to see is the inevitable back and forth until one side or the other are annihilated. There is no "winning" here.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

You misunderstand, I’m not here to answer your questions and have no obligation to answer them. You don't answer my question because you don't have any answers. You can't say a single valid counter argument to prove that there is zero way for Palestinians to stop hating Israeli and claiming that ever if Israel end occupation they would still try to destroy israel. It is factually wrong

It’s not that the Palestinians need to do more or have been doing the wrong things, it’s that after being blockaded by Israel since the 90s they are physically incapable of doing anything effective. They don’t have the resources.

Whatever their a chance it happen or not is not the point. No matter how impossible something is people should do the right thing and not dropping arms

So what we’re going to see is the inevitable back and forth until one side or the other are annihilated. There is no “winning” here.

How Israel succeeded in their plan means that no one is winning? t It would mean the genocidal state won with the complicity of the major western countries and the Arab leaders traitors . You are even contracting yourself in the same post. You say that Palestinians can't do nothing about Israel finishing it's final solution and at the same time claim that Palestinians can destroy Israel

Instead of both siding the conflict and dropping your arms . You should acknowledge the core issue , you should support never giving up. You should support any action trying to change the situation no matter how futile it is.

You clearly lack critical thinking and is too naive . This is my last reply to this useless conversation where you ignore every single argument