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    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    On a side note:
    I hate it that the password-change command is minimally abbreviated to "passwd".
    Come on, making it much more complicated to remember and saving just two freakin letters??

    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    But the only command that I have to look up every damn time, although it has no abbreviation at all, is useradd.
    Oh no, wait, I mean adduser!
    ... No, wait again... aah...

    Next update changes it to usadder as a compromise. Supposedly, it's short for "user adder" but we all know it's to make "[you] sadder".

    [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    All the worse that Debian has both useradd and adduser. I never remember which is the one I want. And in Redhat-derivatives it’s something even more confusing.

    The only thing I ever want to do is add a user to a group, is that too much to ask?

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    adduser is an interactive wrapper for useradd. It can, for example, prompt the user to set a password rather than execute passwd separately. Very useful if you just want to manage a user without reading through useradd's command line options, then running usermod because you forgot to set something.

    It doesn't excuse the bad naming, I'd rather have something like useradd --interactive, but it's worth remembering.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You'd want usermod for that, no? If the user already exists and you're just modifying their groups?

    [–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Ah, damn it! I'll look it up next time. *sudo vim /etc/passwd*

    [–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

    Surely visudo, I hope

    [–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    First time I have to use it, the spelling really confused me. Wrote unmount and didn’t understand why it didn’t work.

    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 18 hours ago

    I guess this also must be an additional layer of hellfire for dyslexics...

    [–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    They did boatloads of horrific things to save bytes. They radix encoded strings, created the y2k and 2038 problems, normalized redirecting output to /dev/null, passed raw text blocks through a fifo file buffer rather than properly tagged data, ditched proper exception handling and a bunch more listed in the Unix Hater’s Handbook

    https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf

    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Now this looks like an interesting read. Thanks!

    [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

    Kinda, but it’s pretty much all horrendously outdated bitching about superficial flaws in tools from 40 years ago.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

    making it much more complicated to remember

    Do you not tab-complete your commands? I mean, my terminal usage for anything beyond very short commands consists of .

    [–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    Do you not tab-complete your commands?

    Sure I do (although nowadays Strg-r does most of the heavy lifting for me), but as a decent touch-typist I am often faster directly typing short commands, like passwor... damn, I mean: passwd ;-)

    [–] Danitos@reddthat.com 2 points 14 hours ago

    Strg-r does most of the heavy lifting for me

    If you haven't, give fzf a try. Is like Ctrl+r in asteroids

    [–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

    It’s the passw daemon

    [–] abcdqfr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

    I SAID, pass the wood

    [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    🀷 that's why we have ls, rm, mv and hell, even w.

    To confuse things even more there's a utility called pwgen and I can never remember which two letters to type before hitting autocomplete.

    [–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

    mv = move, thus:

    • rm = rome
    • ls = lose
    • cd = code
    • w = woe
    [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

    That is so cool.

    So

    • tr = tore
    • tty = totey
    • rsync = rosynce
    • ps = pose
    • pr = pore
    • mpd = moped

    I could do this all day.