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[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like the pvc pipes inside the house? 🤦🏼

[–] tyler@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m not saying the person you’re replying to isn’t being a bit obtuse, but the water in your house that you drink should be running through copper or in newer homes, PEX which is HDPE, not PVC.

Carry on.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How am I being obtuse? Eat citations:

https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9717/7/10/641

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13201-022-01751-y - this one's for household pipes

Plastics are bad for us, no matter how you slice it. Even seemingly stable ones carry risk

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was speaking from a western viewpoint. I had no idea that the Middle East used uPVC in their treated water systems. I will point out that uPVC isn’t PVC. It’s a coated pvc that has different properties which seems to be what the researchers are studying.

In any case, very sorry you have to deal with that over there. We use copper in all western countries I’ve heard of (though lead is still in existing systems in places like Chicago).

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not middle eastern, but plastic pipes are really common in new builds in north america now too. Garden hoses are largely made out of PVC so the same risks apply

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You were talking about PVC. PVC is not the same as HDPE. It’s not the same as PE, PP, etc.

When you say plastic you include a bunch of stuff that you probably don’t mean to. Plastic refers to any material primarily composed of polymers. The coating inside your cast iron pan when you season it using food oil like avocado oil is a plastic.

North American households don’t use pvc. They use HDPE. They’re not even remotely the same. The risks are completely different, just like the difference between styrofoam and rubber.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

I'm not talking about plastic household pipes though - I was clarifying that they are more common than copper now on new builds. NA pipes are PEX from what I've been able to dig up.

Garden hoses - my main focus in my comments - are still made out of PVC