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Alternatives to GrapheneOS (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago by impudentmortal@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Wanted to get a new phone since my S20 is starting to show its age. And with all the enshitification of Android lately I thought it'd be good to try a different phone OS.

However, I don't really want to buy a Google Pixel so GrapheneOS is a no go. I was really interested in the Fold 7 but it seems that will not be possible to get without Android. Thought DivestOS was good but it looks like support ended in 2024.

What other phone OS are people using?

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like they're hosting nextcloud as 'ecloud' which is just nextcloud and office add-ons hosted by the e/os people. So instead of letting google host your data, you're trusting it to this murena company who probably has much less security. they are exposing nextcloud to the net which is a terrible idea as there are many many CVEs https://feedly.com/cve/vendors/nextcloud I like nextcloud and it is good but I would never expose it to the internet like this.

I'd rather google have my info than some random skiddie that compromises murenas services.

There's just so many reasons not to use this android. Just 'degoogling' without any more thought behind it is one of the saddest things in the 'privacy' community. Yes, google is bad. But they're probably not going to be compromised by some low effort skid.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

Feel like I keep on repeating myself here but... here is no "they" or "/e/OS people" if you do not explicitly ask for it! Nobody has to use Murena servers for 'ecloud' or whatever services, secure or not, they are proposing.

They might use the shittiest backend and it can be absolutely unsecure... but as long as you are not using it, who cares?

There is no point in comparing the services they provide to either Google or self-hosted, just do not use them. It's really not that hard. It's in fact literally easier than making an account and use them.

So... yes you can come up with problems and limitations if you want to, but the point is, again :

one can buy a phone from Murena running /e/OS and, in fact by default, NOT use any of their services.

The whole point is that by using /e/OS one is not using Google and has a functional phone from the start. That's it.