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You are so hip with your dog references there buddy. But pal I must tell you, we have 5-8 work weeks, and anything over that is time and a half. Because unions.
Because your grandfather's, instead of manufacturing politically correct in fractions to attack people on, organized and fought to get a fair share of economic output for their labor.
How can you simultaneously say "unions fought and died for your rights and we need to keep up the fight" while also being mad at leftists on the internet? I'm starting to think you have no coherent ideology.
(Also there is way too broad a category of "exempt" worker to say amerikkka has 40 hr weeks with time and a half overtime)
Maybe that is part of the problem, do not look left or right, look up.
Some kind of uhhhh third way
Maybe if we had enough of them and they were powerful enough to actually take charge things would be okay for more than just the highly privileged. Maybe even without the extreme exploitation of the global south.
We could call it a union of unions. A Soviet union so to speak. Or would that be too eastern for you?
Ah you started off so well but then you ruined it with a gratuitous insult, piss off mate
Union membership is the lowest it's ever been and minimum wage hasn't been raised in 16 years. We are not, in fact, getting a fair share of the economic output for our labor, and we never have, because capitalists have been stealing our surplus value since day 1.
No shit?
Yet in the post war years a minimum wage job would pay for a house and a cheap car and life's essentials.
They changed the way inflation is measured starting around the 70s. After the 1972 business roundtable made a long game to undo the new deal and workers gains.
Woah in the post war years anyone who was a suspected anarchist or communist got blacklisted and was unable to work, have a home or live a normal life. Hundreds of thousands of people! Some of whom I know personally in real life!
So much for that freedom in the West!
What about Indonesia murdering hundreds of thousands of suspected communists with U.S military and financial support? Where is the freedom there? How did my western freedoms end up in a pile of dead indigenous people? It always seems to happen!
Oh my God this is the dumbest logic that the rich sponsor to derail any example to meet from the great generation. Because everything was not perfect nothing from that era counts.
You could not use a single example from history with that logic. You could discredit anything anyone has done ever if there was injustice.
Give me one example, one historical example that could be used while not being discounted because their society was not perfect?
And regardless a minimum wage job paid for life, the factory job paid for a downright prosperous life, antitrust laws were enforced, we paid a reasonable amount of money for goods, and so forth.
Are you serious
Yet this is no longer the case in America. So, what, are the Asians responsible for this, too?
Wait, I think I remember you talking about freedom of expression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Hartley_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
Despite being ruled "unconstitutional" these were just more of the flagrant attempts at legislating anti-communism legally. Taft-Hartley was active for a while as well. We all know how "strong" the Supreme Court is these days anyways :)
It had a lot to do with tens of millions of union members and their Associates standing up and fighting together. Without that the United States would still be sending kids down in Coal Mines, the old thrown out in the street to die, etc.
Obviously we have been going back to that place for a long time, half a century, that is the problem.
Common ground found! Time to put bullets in bosses again.
You have a resounding agreement from the rest of us on here on that.