this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2025
272 points (98.9% liked)

United Kingdom

5364 readers
386 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in !casualuk@feddit.uk or !andfinally@feddit.uk
More serious politics should go in !uk_politics@feddit.uk.

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

"Instead of catching real criminals and terrorists, we are arresting pensioners and disabled people calling for the saving of children's lives," said one Metropolitan Police officer.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This isn't like working in fast food, where you can just find another job right away. You're talking about abandoning a career the officer has spent years building.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 29 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Principles aren't principles if you only follow them when they're easy.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Principles can be in conflict though. The promise to provide stability for your family, for example, is often more urgent than more lofty political principles. In this situation, looking actively for another job whilst continuing to perform the tasks you disagree with at a level of bare minimum compliance might be an ethically acceptable compromise.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You dont have a line you wouldnt cross at work? Arresting someone carries a risk of harm, would you harm someone else daily whilst looking for new work?

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

There are tons of lines I wouldn't cross at work, but those lines would be different in another job. If arresting people is generally part of your job description, then I would expect you to have different red lines.

It is a fine principle to uphold the law. In this particular case it is the law that's an ass, not the enforcement.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Easy to say but my job is shit and what real choice do I have? Sure I can look for something else but there isn't much out there.

Does your job involve destroying other people lives as a jackboot for capital?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

Are you a cop? If so then you don't need me to tell you about all of the private security gigs that are going because you 100% already knew about them.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not claiming to be the moral arbiters of the nation though, am I. They are, that's the job they chose to do, it's not my fault they suddenly don't like it. Same for the military in the US wandering aboud LA, and DC.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Demanding they quit because of this has definite "I live with my parents" vibes though. I doubt that person has a mortgage.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

This is bullshit. I'd rather sell my house and move to a poorer area and find a job where I don't hurt people for half the pay, then to hurt people as a police office or in the military. I would expect a wife and children to be pretty understanding of that. And yes I have a mortgage, and no I'm not rich.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Again, they were aware that was always a possibility when they took the job. If you have a job that involves following orders so there is always the possibility that you will be given orders you don't agree with, you should think about that before signing up.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Seems a bit daft. The answer then is to have either no police, or to have police who will mindlessly follow any order?
No police would be great, but in the absence of that ideal, I'd rather have people in the role who question the morality of what they're doing. Compare this response with ICE in the US who kidnap people off the streets and send them to concentration camps and don't complain that they disagree with what they are doing

[–] Networkcathode@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah cuffing pensioners is a real skill that must be honed with years of hard work & training

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

https://www.joiningthepolice.co.uk/training-progression/training

18-22 weeks of classroom based training, then three months supervision on the job. Then they will be getting promoted as they get more experienced.

It's a lot to just walk away from.