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You know, its crazy how many times I've heard this rumor floated relative to the very real organ harvesting business that's been happening in Israel since the 1990s
More than one country can be bad. Israel is very bad. China is also very bad.
I was going to say there was no actual evidence, but huh, I actually fell for some of the tankie lies after enough time. China's deputy health minister Huang Jiefu repeatedly publicly acknowledged that most organ transplants came from death row inmates, and separately China was exporting organs to south korea on a massive scale prior to 2007.
(though it's notable that this has not been connected to the Uyghur situation specifically)
(Also noting that it's Israel claimed to end the practice in 2000, while China claimed to end the practice in 2015)
sources pre-emptively posted: the guardian, (old) beijing times, zhenhua.163.com, der spiegel
It is weird to point to a country that's actively engaged in a holocaust and compare it to one that has eliminated poverty and boosted life expectancy by decades. One is slaughtering hundreds of thousands and the other is dramatically improving the lives of hundreds of millions.
You were the one that brough up the comparison in the first place.
I noted a real well-documented instance of organ harvesting, yes. I wasn't just farting out speculations because I hate the country's politics.
Look let's ease of the Xi Jinping dicksucking. The CCP is an objectively oppressive regime with a terrifying human rights track record. All the tankie whataboutism in the world isn't going to change that.
It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment. Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible.
Literally no where is like this
It exists. You just won't like where you find it.
Where?
Bro fr thinks they have this in China lmao
~ Michael Parenti, Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism
Right, so that is clearly written with such incredible bias. At the end of the day, people in China, Russia, north Korea etc still suffer, no place like the utopia you described exists.
The sharpest spike in human misery in both Russia and N Korea followed after the Yeltsin coup of the Soviet Parliament in 1993.
This precipitated a wave of de-industrialization, mass displacement, and famine spanning the USSR. It paved the road to multiple civil wars, invasions, and genocides, not the least of which we're seeing the modern day.
Westerners will tell you that these countries were liberated with the collapse of the USSR. They'll also insist the residents of these countries are subhuman and deserve to die.
Maybe some, but certainly not most, but to say that there was no one ruling over them before yeltsin is silly, fucking Stalin was a monster, krushchev wasn't great. Mao was a horrible dictator.
The Soviets self-governed for the length of the Cold War. A radical departure from Nazi occupation of the 30s/40s or the debt peonage of the interwar period.
Confederates said the same thing about William T. Sherman and Abraham Lincoln.
Except for the leaders of the party? How do you define self governing?
Sure there were some monsters in the Union army, but they were fighting slavers, so I don't really care for their opinion. Nor should you
You mean the survivors of the Holocaust and resistance movement heroes that liberated their nations from brutal occupation?
Okay buddy. Glad to know where you stand
Your original premise was that there was freedom without being ruled over, I was saying that was bullshit.
Anti slavery? Yeah happy to be anti slavery haha. I'm glad to know where you stand
So it's likely