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    guys plz just install linux, we only play 5 year old games

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    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    Sadly I had to install Windows 10 iot ltsc on a laptop I own.

    I tried to install linux. Several distros. But I always ran into de same issue. I was unable to install nvidia drivers. Which was weird, because that laptop have been on linux a few years prior and I clearly recall installing nvidia drivers without any issues.

    So I dug into the problem. And it seems that some new linux kernel had issues with older nvidia drivers, so most, if not all, distros dropped support for that old driver. Only given solution was to run some old lts distro. But por instance mint lts will end on 2027.

    At the same time everything worked just fine on that version of windows that have support until 2032.

    And, not, the laptop is not that usable with nouveau drivers, as those are incapable of doing hardware acceleration, so everything runs slower, specially games, but it can be noticed even in just the DE.

    So it's weird. That in order to keep old hardware around I need to use Windows, because linux dropped support for this particular older hardware earlier than windows.

    I know it's just an exception, and that is mostly Nvidia's fault. But I had to do what I had to do.

    Still running linux on other of my machines though.

    [–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Is there no option to use the igpu? Or you need the dgpu for some reason?

    You can run a new distro with an old kernel, I used to do that with slackware. you can get similar 10 year support (after kernel.org lts ends) for the kernel if you take it from rhel/rocky linux

    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    It is, same as nouveau drivers. But with a loss in performance, because not gpu hardware acceleration.

    The computer runs and linux with nouveau will be its final destiny. But as for now there are some games I play that are just on the edge that run very well with hardware acceleration but sluggish with igpu or nouveau.

    I will have to look into the new distro/old kernel thing. It may be a solution.

    [–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Oh dam, I just watched a vid yesterday about the different distros "Every Linux Distro Explained in 13 minutes" (obviously very very superficial) I'll see if I can find it in my history and post a link to it for you. there were at least 1 or 2 for "really old" hardware. I will change the name to a link when I get to my pc

    Edit: added link

    [–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    How old are we talking? The nvidia open-source drivers dropped support for everything prior to the 20-series i think? but the closed-source nvidia drivers still support older cards.

    [–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    2013 I think. It's a 710M laptop gpu. The needed driver is the 390 something like that. Both fedora and ubuntu based distro had dropped support for it. I tried manual installation but indeed it failed because it doesn't seems to play nice with the kernel.

    If you're ever inclined to to go back, OpenSUSE (at least Tumbleweed, not sure about Leap) still supports the old drivers. I'm starting to be in the same boat with my 150 MX.

    Although I rarely use it. Putting the laptop to sleep often ends up in a crash with the nVidia drivers. Luckily I also have Intel onboard graphics in the thing.

    [–] rustyredox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    If you're new to Linux, then NixOS may be outside your comfort zone, but nixpkgs does enable simple patch set integration for legacy Nvidia drivers for use with recent kernels. You could try enabling the 390 config option from a NixOS desktop install, or fetch and apply the appropriate patch from aurPatches source yourself from a different distro for a corresponding kernel version:

    Thanks! I'll look into that.

    [–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    I run a GTX 980 Ti; Maxwell architecture is still supported for three years. Older than that: Kepler support ended last year and Fermi support ended in 2023, and they won't play nice with kernels released since then.