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[... Lumo] is the least open "open" AI assistant that we have ever added to our index. One of our reasons for inclusion is an openness claim: a model provider that calls their system "open" or "open source" or a variation on that. Lumo is "open" in that sense (Proton calls it open source) but in no other way. Nothing about it is currently open. [...]

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[–] RYS@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They are working really hard to destroy their reputation and user's trust. Without trust, however, their (old) business model is dead.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know I should just move from proton to another service but dammit I finally got transitioned to their email service. I'm so tired of having that trust betrayed.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I'm dreading migrating my SimpleLogin stuff to fastmail >.>

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They deleted my message when I said that Luma is not actually private (I didn't know this community was company run).

No cloud LLM can be private (unlike email or even cloud storage), only a locally run LLM can be truly private.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure they've forgotten about this comm.

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes this community is run by Proton.

if you can find the receipts in the mod log do post it to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com .

Good to gather evidence.

[–] MHLoppy@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Yes this community is run by Proton.

I'm pretty sure this one's not though: there are two "communities" lists, one for ones run by proton and one for "user-supported" ones that aren't run by proton. And well, this one has actually been removed even from the second list so I really doubt they have much involvement here.