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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 182 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

Fun fact: It's actually possible for two countries to both be authoritarian!

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago (61 children)

The US killed a million innocent people in Iraq just a few years ago, and is *currently * drone bombing several countries in ME and north africa, and is currently supporting the apartheid state of israel with billions of dollars in military aid.

The PRC has not been in a war since its skirmish with Vietnam in 1979.

The US has a network of > 800 military bases across the globe, and has been involved in regime change in nearly every country.

Which one is authoritarian?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago (81 children)

"Authoritarian" is largely a meaningless term. All it really means is one group using force against another group, but it doesn't say anything about which group is which. In the US Empire, the capitalists use the state to crush the workers, and export genocide and chaos to the global south. In the PRC, the working class uses the state to keep the capitalists in check as they progress and develop along socialist lines. This stark difference in which class is in power is shown with immense popular support in the PRC:

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed, one can be authoritarian towards workers and people all around the globe while other can be authoritarian towards their national and foreign capitalists.

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