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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean there are some options for dealing with that.

A. Early monitoring in childhood followed by extensive therapy

B. Eugenics if a genetic link is identified (least savory option and likely not possible)

C. Rebuild our social circles and communities

To expand on C, I think a lot of what you're identifying as narcissistic behavior or sociopathy is actually caused by the destruction of our communities. The way our society is built it rewards anti-social action with money and it's cold and depersonalized. It's easy as a upper executive to fire 500 people you've never once met and you will never meet. You don't have to know them beyond a few spreadsheets of data. People will absolve themselves of personal responsibility and refer to the financial aspects. Additionally, our communities have been destroyed. The addition of the nuclear family structure encourages you to provide as much as possible to as few individuals instead of valuing extended family and community. Plus in some places in the world it is possible to go days or weeks without ever interacting with members of your community.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Eugenics doesn't have to mean killing them.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah these days it's just altering in vitro. We have the tech, but we are rightfully frightened by it. It's hard to deploy in a way that it does good and is not abused

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Even sterilizing people to try and produce a specific result is eugenics.

... not that I'm in favor of it without a TON of causational evidence for something, since plenty of great people come from absolutely shit parents. Not to mention that not all people with "undesirable" traits behave undesirably.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sad thing is we do have the potential to shape a healthier human race. The potential to cure all genetic diseases and have a better future. We have the technology today.

Unfortunately we cannot be trusted to use it. It will 100% be used to target minorities and harm people to create something racists ideal. It's kinda sad

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude we can't even take polio. You think we're ready to fuvk with our own genomes for this shit?

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I mean we can, we have the tech but not the will.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nah, we have the will, we just don't have the ethical foundations as a species to do it "correctly". I guarantee you there are many labs around the world fucking with embreyos right now. It's only a matter of time before some less scrupulous lab allows one to grow up.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Technology isnt just things that have batteries and go 'beep'. Technology is also systems of organization and coordination.

So no. No we don't.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the technology that goes "beep" the organization and coordination is what I would define as the "will" and that's what we lack.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Organization and coordination are technology though. They don't just happen. We create tools like phone trees and group chats and meeting structures and 'roles' and junk. Sometimes we do it in really horrible ways like feudalism/capitalism. That's no less technology than a faster less fail prone way to close an artery, or a knowledge of what parts of the EM spectrum will travel best here, and how to use them to communicate.

Fundamentallu capitalist conception of what a thing is; that a think is the bit you can possess, can own, and nothing else can realky be operated on or understood.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like how you listed all things that do exist we just lack the will to put it all together.

Like there's not really anything we need to invent to do a lot of these things. We just have to put it all together.

It's not that logistics isn't technology, it is, but we already possess it. Like you said we're willing to implement it for profit, but we lack the will to implement it for these other uses

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well... Maybe

The good organizational systems mostly havemt been tried at scale, because they get the shit murdered out of them when they try. Like 9/11(never forget) or the spanish civil war.

The old ones have sone MAJOR compatibility issues, it turns out. Small and medium scale trials do show promise.