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[–] departee@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pre imperialism sure. They committed genocides to take control of and expand the spice trade.

It's kind of funny how italy gets to have the best european cuisine just by being in the imperial core so long, first during the roman empire, then during the columbian exchange. I guess the climate helped too. Compared to them northern europe took a long time to catch up. It's crazy how much the working class diet there changed so much even over the last half century

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know tomatos arent indigenous to italy? So the italian food you think of now was mostly made with a version of mayo not tomato sauce.

[–] departee@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what i was referring to with the columbian exchange. But I didn't know about the mayo lol

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Good, because I have seen several variants of that take where people imagine that medieval Italians ate modern day lasagna and salsa rossa.