i'm so tired of these posts. okay, fediverse, you won! you are more decentralized than bluesky. maybe it's time to create real useful and interesting content instead of reveling in your elitism?

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

But....I came here just for the gloating fediverse content.

What else could there be?

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean I agree... it's kind of the constant crux isn't it?

The IT nerds pick a protocol that's uncontrolled, you need to select options and servers, because... well obviously that's kind of the definition of uncontrolled.

Some big name with big VC backing makes a big platform, makes it simple as possible, no choices, no control but good defaults. Average joes all flock there, build huge communities, users happy. Obviously the bulk of the creative types, celebrities etc... that most people care about flock there.

Big corp or VCs start demanding more monetization, or political censorship, or whatever kind of enshittification they inevitably always will. Users complain, but it all continues to amplify... open communities announce "hey we've got our alternative here", they say "thanks but nah that's too complicated, and you don't have the users that I want to see anyway". People complain more... and either adapt and accept the enshitification as normal... or maybe another big VC backed individual or other corp opens an alternative and pulls off the impossible critical mass goal, and process repeats.

I don't really know the solution, just know the pattern. Bluesky is IMO the new twitter... fundimentally I don't see it as super different than the old twitter. Only way I really see everything working is if say... a corporate backed giant actually played nicely and allowed interoperability with a federated protocol that's actually... well hostable.

It's basically like exactly what happens out in the real world... walmart comes offers better convenience and lower prices than local competitors... local economy adapts to walmart, individual stores shut down... half of owners, etc... forced to working for walmart for garbage pay.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the difference is that while other services boom and bust, the fediverse keeps growing slowly because it is decentralized, and can't be enshittified in the same way.

It is not as easy or attractive as Bluesky right now, but it keeps growing slowly and getting more kinds of people.

Maybe it won't be the network of choice for journalists, metal celebrities, etc, like twitter and bluesky, but it already is making its way as something more like old school tumblr -- some people like it, some don't.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

yeah it matches that old school tumblr vibe, i like it

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It would be fair to say something like that if you yourself made content but your last post was 3 months ago lol

[–] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

first, no, it's fair to say regardless of how often i create content. posts like this is cancer, which adds nothing to the platform. second, even on this account my last post was 1 month ago.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It's information. YOU are the one deciding to make this a competition.