The most unhinged thing about this to me as someone raised christian is that, for all the guy belongs in hell, one of the most basic tenets of Christianity is that if you truly repent and ask forgiveness, no matter what you did, you go to heaven. If you don't, no matter what you did, you go to hell. So he doesn't need to do anything to go to heaven except be sorry he did shitty things and know about jeeby creeby.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

That's not universally true in Christianity, though it's very common. Faith vs works and all that.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That Sucker Jesus Has Forgiven Me For Some Pretty Bad Sins

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes, in my darkest hours, I imagine that Jesus is carrying me. When I was on my eight-day speed/armed-robbery binge, I could actually feel Him pick me up in his arms and carry me away from the vomit-soaked apartment. He even stopped so I could throw away the gun. Jesus is a friend, a partner, and an accomplice.

Bwaha

[–] engineer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lmao at the publish date

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I thought this was gonna go in a different direction

[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Personally hate this concept of Christianity. Like all of these ideas about faith and believing in the ideals that unpin said faith, if you really believe then your actions should reflect your belief. The idea that you can be a shitty person and then wash it all away because you did the lil trick where you prayed it away doesn’t even make sense.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s far more that cracks this idea (what about sociopaths who have the literal inability to feel empathy? Is it fair to judge them equally?), but just a cursory observation leads one to question the idea of full easy forgiveness.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you really believe, and there's an all knowing, all loving, all powerful god, even the idea of having to pray for forgiveness makes no sense. God would already know. But because Christianity originally developed as a doomsday cult and was co-opted by royalty to keep the people in line it's not shocking the aberrations that develop.

Also, my point was that if he has had a conversion moment that should properly involve a literal conversion, repentance, and a resolution to do the right thing going forward, not the language he's using implying "earning" his way into heaven.

[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

It’s just sad. There’s a ton more that I could really say but anyone who has dealt with moving away from Christianity or evangelicalism largely already understands.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tbh I don't think he'll show true repentence. It may seem like it because the prospect of going to hell scares the hell out of him. But his actions will be rotten to the end and that will undercut this repentence

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is an approximately 110% chance he neither knows nor cares how Christianity works.

[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah something tells me “righting wrongs committed” is a big part of any flavor of heaven and I don’t think he has enough time left on earth to do so lol

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Shit closest a US president doing that would be something like Jimmy Carter. No way trump does even a fraction of that