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[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 59 points 5 days ago (1 children)

American Elites and conservative morons.

Not all Americans. The majority have wanted socialized Healthcare for a long time, but actual political results rarely match the popular opinion here.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

At least 50% voted racism. There is no hiding behind the "Elites".

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Even the majority of republican voters want health care reform. It's a cross-party issue, for sure. Trump even lied and said he had some beautiful, magical healthcare plan that'll fix everything. People who believed him are clearly still idiots of course.

[–] Pumasuedeblue@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I am sick of this bullshit argument. The 'majority' of Republican voters can say whatever they want, but they vote for a party whose core values are against healthcare reform and will even take it away if another party tries to implement it. For 20 years or more voting republican has meant supporting racism and corporate interests above all else. Republican voters are getting exactly what they voted for. Stop trying to make them sound like victims.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It isn't bullshit per se. It is by and large what they want when polled, but they're too fucking stupid, too hung up on single issue voting, or too easily misled and naive and think the awful people they keep voting for will somehow not fuck them over some day

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Follow the money. Find out which politicians resist healthcare and you'll find who's getting paid to resist it.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not referring to votes, but basically every pill or survey that asks people about these ideas. Most Americans generally agree with and want universal healthcare.

Also, a lot of voters are single- or few-issue voters. With limited choices, some will just vote anyways closest to their beliefs. That doesn't necessarily mean they agree with the full package.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

And yet sweet racism/homophobia keeps them from demanding universal healthcare.

[–] roundup5381@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

50% of what? Wasn't his tally closer to 30% of gen pop?

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The nonvoting assholes add up to more than 50%.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

You are ignorant on this issue. Please do better before making generalized prejudice statements.