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[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I have some good news for the Gen Zers. America is capitalism with a socialism backbone. Things like social securit, fire departments, national parks, roads, schools, electricity, water, police, jails, courts, unemployment, banking(FDIC), CDC, military, space programs, and so much more are paid by your taxes and redistributed wealth just like socialism.

The problem is when money mixes with politics from things like Citizens United, you start seeing policies shifting away from socialism to capitalism.

This can all be reversed once we remove all money from politics.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You would first have to convince party insider democrats to turn their back on the biggest source of funds in their entire history. From your lips to god's ears and all, but let's be real. It's not bloody likely

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Before we can do anything about it, people need to know what Citizens United even is. All of us needs to let everyone know what this thing is doing to all of us. We start with knowledge and then vote for those who oppose it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That sounds way more actionable.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But not all schools (university) and notably missing healthcare, apart from VA, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Electricity market is commercial but regulated by government, water at least where I am is government administered but must pay for itself out of its own revenue.

Folks are terrified there's no fair opportunity to be secure in health, food, and housing. If they have confidence in those three things being securely in reach, then folks would be far less anxious.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Back in my day, state university was heavily subsidized by the state. Greed happened and we fucked ourselves. Community college was also stupid cheap as well.

Some places electricity was ran by the government before greed and money got into politics.

My point is about letting people know a lot of this shit is greed and money in politics. Let's all start telling people what Citizens United is and we can all move forward with how we vote.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Some of those things could be considered socialized, but they do not make our government socialist. Socialized welfare exists under socialism but that's not what socialism is. Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production. You could even nationalize industries, but without unions, syndicates, or cooperatives collectively making the decisions it's really only state capitalism.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Yes, absolutely. I'm trying to explain it in layman's terms without going through what exactly is socialism.

My point is that we need to actually inform people what Citizens United has done to our society. Corporations are NOT people and does not deserve the protections that people get.