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Donald Trump’s latest comments about allowing hundreds of thousands of Chinese international students into the United States have drawn criticism from some of the most outspoken members of the Republican Party.

Ahead of his meeting with South Korean President Lee Jae-myung at the White House on Monday, Trump told reporters that he plans to allow 600,000 Chinese students into the country — a figure more than double the number in the United States now.

It’s a sharp departure from an announcement Secretary of State Marco Rubio made in May, when he promised the United States would “aggressively revoke” visas for Chinese students and add more scrutiny to all future visa applications from China.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the US still designs some of the most advanced things on this planet

We're rapidly tearing all the wiring out of the walls. Just look at the dismantling of the CDC, the FAA, and NOAA. Mass arrest and deportation of some of the smartest and most talented people in their fields, because they aren't native born (or merely white enough to pass the paper bag test). Feds moving to block the trade of high end electronics or the construction of modern power systems and modes of transport. The sheer volume of financial scams coming on the heels of an enormous tech bubble, combined with mass layoffs across software, automotive, and agriculture sectors.

It's bleak, man. Real "you're a Russian landing your first job in 1989 Moscow" bleak.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It’s bleak, man. Real “you’re a Russian landing your first job in 1989 Moscow” bleak.

In 1989 there was literally US food aid being unloaded in Moscow, so it was already bad and the future wasn't so bleak, many people were hopeful. I was born in 1996, so can't speak for the 90s, but it appears it wasn't such a bad time in the sense that people became free to talk and dream and be honest to each other. It was something dark, but pure. It was a bad time for people who were hungry. Unfortunately, while the majority was trying to somehow survive and exploring that newly gained ability to look at the world in its true colors, the minority was preparing what there is now.

But ok, I got your meaning.

The purpose of the bubble, I think (for those who are intentionally helping it), is an intentional drying of the environment for that re-industrialization they want, which requires a change in labor market. It wouldn't be a bad idea if it worked, but that is also true for Russia's shock therapy in the 90s, which didn't.

(BTW, the difference of both Yeltsin's and Putin's regimes from most of the "anti-western" world is that they were not really that, they just weren't accepted, which made them look for alternatives ; perhaps both make it seem like personal ego of the leader, but honestly what USA did in Yeltsin's time was indeed adversarial - basically they used Yeltsin's willingness to make all the leaps of faith to become a NATO member or at least an ally to snatch what's possible and humiliate Russia as possible, and then took a "we didn't sign anything" pose.)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

it appears it wasn’t such a bad time in the sense that people became free to talk and dream and be honest to each other.

That's some grade A propaganda. The mid-90s Russia was a brutal Mafia state that preluded a number of ugly conflicts, most notably in Chechnya.

The only thing resembling "freedom" to talk was the rash of ethno-nationalism and reactionary social conservatism which would become the hallmarks of United Russia.

honestly what USA did in Yeltsin’s time was indeed adversarial - basically they used Yeltsin’s willingness to make all the leaps of faith to become a NATO member or at least an ally to snatch what’s possible and humiliate Russia as possible

Russia was being converted into a Western client state, on par with Mexico or Indonesia. Yeltsin opened the doors to a US based looting of the former USSR. Putin came into power on a wave of nationalist sentiment that closed the door and internalized the wealth of Russia again (to Putin's cartel of guys).

The idea that this was some kind of liberalization of Russian politics requires you to ignore everything but the superficial token liberalist parties that never had a popular base of support.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That’s some grade A propaganda. The mid-90s Russia was a brutal Mafia state that preluded a number of ugly conflicts, most notably in Chechnya.

How is that propaganda and why are you answering it with things orthogonal to what I said? You have a disability, perhaps, making you incapable of understanding texts taken in full?

The only thing resembling “freedom” to talk was the rash of ethno-nationalism and reactionary social conservatism which would become the hallmarks of United Russia.

Those were present in the public perception, thus those were present in politics. No, ER is not partial to any specific ideology. They are the ruling party and do whatever they want. That's their only ideology.

Russia was being converted into a Western client state, on par with Mexico or Indonesia. Yeltsin opened the doors to a US based looting of the former USSR.

Yeltsin thought differently. When he realized that, he also realized he has no plan. Thus the weird moves after 1996 and ultimately passing power to Putin.

Putin came into power on a wave of nationalist sentiment that closed the door and internalized the wealth of Russia again (to Putin’s cartel of guys).

He didn't close any doors. Just slowly accumulated power, as a side effect pressing out other interests.

The idea that this was some kind of liberalization of Russian politics requires you to ignore everything but the superficial token liberalist parties that never had a popular base of support.

What you wrote doesn't have any connection to what I wrote.

But since that's wrong as well - no, roughly in 1989-1993 Russian politics existed for real. And in 1993-1999 there was growing understanding that things went the wrong way in 1993. And the 1996 election was competitive among the populace, even if CPRF the party clearly intended to lose politically.

In any case what I wrote was about the society and culture, not about politics, you just can't perceive anything outside of your partisan bullshit, can you?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

How is that propaganda

Because it's factually untrue and largely a product of American criticism of Societ Era politics.

You have a disability, perhaps, making you incapable of understanding texts taken in full?

Western propaganda in a nutshell. You're so invested in your hatred of a foreign country that you attribute any rebuttal to mental illness.